appreciate you for putting me on fr
Respect. It’s very early on and it’s a running monologue about “the problem with Black people” and builds on not having a united leader or force to build. Really interesting how this conversation has persisted and morphed
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This aint really related to the main topic though its moving forward into who would be a better person to say it and no one still gon answer the question lol
The reason why the western world is ok with a genocide happening of because Palestinians are Muslim.
If that was a Christian nation it would never happen.
i don’t know much about the conflict or politics in general but the U.S is in bed with Israel, they have dumped money there and have a vested interest that goes beyond hatred for Muslims
and besides that, Zionism is a political nationalist movement and one of the founding tenets (or goals) is a homogenous Jewish homeland. that’s distinct from Judaism which is a religion centered around the God of Abraham. some Jews support Zionism but not all Jews are Zionists
that would be akin to saying that Hinduvta or Christian nationalism are conflated with one another when the teleology for the ideologies are completely different even if they have roots within the religious system that they utilize to justify it
Internet made niggas dumb as hell
Its about who would be a better spokesperson for black issues if the names mentioned arent it? Not to further discuss michael rubin which only you are doing rn lol
"black issues" nigga he was complaining about black on black hate in regards to niggas making funny of meek being in the diddy docs.
guess what the "black on black" myth isnt REAL lmao
yall act like you know better for niggas then fall straight into the same traps white mfs set up
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Fair answer
But niggas still not saying who would be a better person to start these convos lol
niggas need to pick up a book and listen to black revolutionaries in America history
not whatever nu-Black, pro black, whatever podcast, YouTube, media personality is telling you
There’s nothing wrong with listening to these people (for the most part) but actually trying to address systemic issues within black communities you will be scrambling in the dark and at worst get led into being some weird black conservative
yeah I’m proving the tweet right because I have higher standards for my people than listening to media personalities and billionaires preach
no one is denying black on black hate but there’s no point in cherry picking a broken clock (Charleston white) and being like “look! Y’all actually don’t listen, he has a point!”
be for real. Picking up a book or listening to other black revolutionaries is better advice than f***ing Dr Umar just because he made the surprising revelation that colorism still exists in the black community or whatever nonsense he yaps about next
Higher standards some bourgeois s***, you meet people where they are. Some are street niggas turned activists, others are devoted religious peoples
Just saying because you don't care what some niggas are saying is counterintuitive, there's a reason these people are being pushed to the forefront despite Cointelpro and Memorandum 46
Charleston White is a black conservative who hates black people.
Umar wants to further patriarchy and has no tangible interest in elevating the black community.
Rubin a white guy, he doesnt know how it is to be black
How does Umar want to further patriarchy
Higher standards some bourgeois s***, you meet people where they are. Some are street niggas turned activists, others are devoted religious peoples
Just saying because you don't care what some niggas are saying is counterintuitive, there's a reason these people are being pushed to the forefront despite Cointelpro and Memorandum 46
Yeah Charleston white is a reactionary and shouldn’t be propped up or engaged with seriously
Telling normal people to avoid him like that plague isn’t “bourgeois” s***
F.D. Signifier
I'm joking?
He doesn’t like drake , so no
I’m joking?
niggas need to pick up a book and listen to black revolutionaries in America history
not whatever nu-Black, pro black, whatever podcast, YouTube, media personality is telling you
There’s nothing wrong with listening to these people (for the most part) but actually trying to address systemic issues within black communities you will be scrambling in the dark and at worst get led into being some weird black conservative
the niggas itt saying charleston white doesnt hate black people and big upping kevin samuels
holy s***
Legit don't know what Michael Rubin said or did other reaffirm Meeks sexuality and confirm he's teams OVO
Edit: oh nvm I seen that clip. Yeaaaa he should be sorry lmao
No way you going hard for Palestine and against Beyoncé in politics but getting duped by f***ing Charleston White of all people lol
do better
You have the wrong person f***utalmbout?
Both Umar and charleston have touched on the root of the problem and still gotten it wrong. What they are both saying is what we have tried and failed already. Most solutions conservatives think about this community have already been attempted and co-opted already
u giving charleston too much credit
LMAOOOOOOOO.
90% of that niggas takes WERE ASS and he died in the most hypocritical way possible
His core message was promoting the family unit. Yall hated him cause of his clips that went viral and you thought his whole thing was bashing women
Any criticism of the black community at large
Well... who gives s*** what Michael Rubin thinks
Umar is alright I guess
Charleston White shouldnt be taking seriously, he's a comedian but he also says coon s*** on purpose to stir an uproar
Overall this tweet is corny tho like idk why he chose those 3 people out of anybody
Kanye & Akademiks... both people with nothing of worth to say
We all know whatever beef he has with michael rubin comes from him being annoyed that Meek met with Kim & because Rubin is Jewish (I think Rubin is Jewish, right?)
"black issues" nigga he was complaining about black on black hate in regards to niggas making funny of meek being in the diddy docs.
guess what the "black on black" myth isnt REAL lmao
yall act like you know better for niggas then fall straight into the same traps white mfs set up
I mean niggas do gang up on Meek in general and not to regurgitate the diddy thing nor to make this about michael rubin but the second lawsuit came from someone who worked on Puff last album and tried a suit for royalties months before the infamous freakoff lawsuit that went viral lmaoo. Theres a rabbithole we could go down something something believe anything with big logo and caption but again not trying to make this thread about anything other than who would be the ones that should say “it” (any collective criticism of black community behaviors) lol i aint saying rubin should be the one
i don’t know much about the conflict or politics in general but the U.S is in bed with Israel, they have dumped money there and have a vested interest that goes beyond hatred for Muslims
and besides that, Zionism is a political nationalist movement and one of the founding tenets (or goals) is a homogenous Jewish homeland. that’s distinct from Judaism which is a religion centered around the God of Abraham. some Jews support Zionism but not all Jews are Zionists
that would be akin to saying that Hinduvta or Christian nationalism are conflated with one another when the teleology for the ideologies are completely different even if they have roots within the religious system that they utilize to justify it
“I don’t know much about the conflict or politics” is all I needed to see.
As someone that has gone to Palestine and spoken to actual Palestinians this is where I will exit this conversation.
Charleston does not hate Black people
he constantly says anti-black things and degrades women. you can’t be a black conservative and not serve white supremacy. He be calling niggas slaves and s***. Be fr
Higher standards some bourgeois s***, you meet people where they are. Some are street niggas turned activists, others are devoted religious peoples
Just saying because you don't care what some niggas are saying is counterintuitive, there's a reason these people are being pushed to the forefront despite Cointelpro and Memorandum 46
They’re pushed to the forefront precisely because they don’t actually synthesize a need for black people to study Marx and comfortably either draw black people further into reaction and bigotry like Charleston, or in Umar’s case just wanting a return to Black Nationalism in some wakanda tier fantastically where the black patriarchy can be maintained forever without white people ruining it
Neither of those are progressive
Or in Michael Rubin’s case he’s just some bourgeois f*** who will leech off whatever is hot and he’s also probably a pedophile