Nicki exposes the "vaxx", now Kenneth petty "victim" on THE REAL 🤣🤣🤣

DEMS DOWN BAD OUTCHEA

I just saw a video a few months back where Jennifer denied being bribed and get messages from Nicki and her team.

I think there is truth to what she is saying, it's possible it was Barbz messaging her and not Nicki's and her team.

That's the double standard, cause if I hit her or anything I'd be a bad guy, I get assaulted and it's jokes. How does one win with you niggas? Being 5'5" don't make you p****, I been said where I am if it's that deep.

Bro the fact Mr Rapist is allowing his wife to harass his victim suggests very much that he is not a reformed character. It suggests in fact the opposite. In order to be reformed and in a position where you are deserving of any redemption from such a horrific act then at the very least you must acknowledge your wrongdoing and be repentant for it. Clearly that's not happened.

I agree with you. I had a problem with his general statement of acting like you are never allowed to change from the person you were when you committed a crime. Not just this case in particular.

Body shaming?

Yeah apparently being short and not beating a b**** into the ground for assaulting you makes you p****

I mean you can if you want lol. it's been done in the past but I don't put details on my personal life on this site cause niggas are inevitably gonna weaponize it lol.

The reason I said what I said and the reason people like kuro are coming at you is because you constantly have all this smoke for something whenever it's involving something with women (and it is a pattern whether or not you believe it is or not) so, yeah. It is a double standard and I'm sorry that you got assaulted.

WITH THAT ASIDE, you being upset because people are not at the most willing to forgive someone for raping a woman AT KNIFEPOINT, is a wild hill to die on bro. At that point you're gonna get clowned on lol.

Once again, before everybody and they mama inserted themselves in an AB conversation, my statement to him was about him acting like anyone that's committed a crime like that isn't allowed to be a changed person. He was making a blanket statement as if anyone that's done something irreprehensible is beyond change. I don't agree with that.

I grew up in the hood, I'm the only member of my family to have avoided prison, and even that was narrowly. So I don't agree with holding someone's crimes over their heads for life. Prison is supposed to exist for reform, people instead view it as a hole to dump the scum of society and not look back on.

That goes out the window when sexual assault is involved. Rapists aren’t worthy of a second chance.

Cool

So a Dylan Roof type of character is allowed to change?

And the people affected are allowed to not wanna associate with said "changed" person.

Change is an internal thing and it has nothing to do with whether or not society is welcoming of you or not. And as someone with friends that's been through similar situations as the victims, I'm sorry you tell me that you raped somebody at knife point 10 years ago, I'm never associating with you bucko lmfao.

You acting like that's wrong is funny. The same way people are allowed to change, people are also allowed to not forgive. No one should be obligated or forced to forgive. That's toxic and dismissive of their feelings man.

*adulting

Rapists and murderers should be killed (assuming enough evidence).

It’d be cool if you had as much sympathy for victims of sexual abuse as you do for rapists. This is why your dumbass keeps getting clowned in this thread

You're naming individual cases. Individual cases need to be viewed under their own lenses as each case is different. Von killed a lot of people, showed zero remorse, and mocked the victims literally up until his last day. But is seen in an entirely different light, again case by case basis. But say EVERYONE who's committed a crime can't change, I don't agree with.

But yes people are allowed to feel how they towards him, the victim especially, nobody said they weren't. You don't have to embrace someone's change, but treating everyone like they're incapable of changing leaves little motivation for them to change. Matter of fact it's counter productive. His statement was one more broad than this case or merely ones identical to it. That's what I was replying to. Some people are very much irredeemable, not everyone is.

EDIT:
And I'm by no means a rape apologist. The hardest thing was helping my family through their rape. It's deplorable. But I will not say everyone that's done anything like that can never change.

Cool.

Certain crimes you don't deserve reform for. I don't think anyone agrees that ALL people who commit crimes can't change. A homeless man was arrested and faces jail for underpaying by 43 cents. The man saw mountain dew for 2 for 3 (plus tax) and he thought that 1 would be 1.50 but it was 2.29.

"but treating everyone like they're incapable of changing leaves little motivation for them to change."

And like I mentioned earlier. The want and need to change comes from the internal. If your change is solely dependent on how others will feel about you, then your change ain't really worth s*** in the grand scheme of things.

Of course not, and no one in this thread said everyone who committed a crime can't change. But yes, a loooooot of people (including myself) do feel that things like rape and murder (in specific cases) are grounds to not feel comfortable with your change. That s*** (especially actual rape) will and should always be over your head imo.

You yourself say it's deplorable. And deplorable things like that make it hard for people to say they can just change bro lol.

And once again, you're the one on this hill because you once again have (and I really do think you just be doing devil's advocate gimmicks.) these feelings and reactions to things that I aint gonna lie, never met anyone IRL that would feel anything remotely the same. And you once again feeling like people should just be able to have your same outlook is funny.

You had another unpopular opinion and you got clowned for it. Was bringing up your assault a bit out of pocket? Sure, but it's out of pocket you aint really say anything for the victim too lol.

Y’all care to much about s*** that have no affect on your life lmao no one know these people personally

This is such a BS statement. Since you can’t defend it then we shouldn’t care huh?

Have whatever outlook you want. Me being assaulted wasn't relevant to the discussion, nor would it be funny if I beat her up over it. So I rather stick to the discussion at hand, I don't observe individual users enough to weaponize their lives.

I do play devil's advocate, I wouldn't call it a gimmick, I just try to make myself someone that sees all sides, all angles and I base my approach and my discussion on that. You don't have to agree with me, I'm not the authority, but if I believe something I will argue it until I'm blue in the face. Call that me believing people should agree with me if you want. I call it someone presenting their case and someone that's not afraid to have a back and forth discussion.

Users here take opinions to heart, like plants saying I should die because I eat steak. I try not to be like that, because I enjoy having debates and seeing opposing views even if I personally don't agree with them. Can't grow living in an echo chamber.

To the victim, I haven't said a single bad or off handed thing about her in this thread. Nor have I been adamantly defending Kenneth either. He served his time, and she's being given a platform to further say her piece, more than many victims get, so short of murdering Kenneth idk what you wanted me to say about her.

You said no one said that every person isn't capable of change. Is his statement I originally quoted not a blanket statement to everyone that's committed a crime of that degree, while also doing mental gymnastics as to why murder is less reprehensible?

I agree that change is very much internal. But as a society you also should encourage people to find that change. If everyone treats you like a piece of s*** for all time, where is the motivation to be anything else? A d*** dealer can want to change, but if every job tells him no because he was a dealer in the past, and everyone in society says he's nothing but a dealer, guess what? That man is likely just going to continue dealing. That's what society has labled him anyway might as well fit the mold if no good comes from the opposite. That's what I mean when I say you should always encourage the change you want to see.

Everybody itt saying that Nicki is “going to go down for this” is like saying that you don’t like a specific shock jock because you think they’re sleazy
Like I doubt the person you’re s***ting on cares and doesn’t know

Na i just don’t give a f*** i stop caring to defend any artist action i don’t know these niggas and neither do you, if you’re gonna criticize the music? cool But to criticize someone actions that you don’t know is wild corny take that s*** to mediatakeout or shaderoom comments

We seen this thread a million times