2words

2y

Disagree on Worst Behavior

That’s the sort of record Kendrick and Keem are STILL trying to make, that song was actually way ahead of its time

I don’t think age arguments are as worthless as you’re making it out. It matters how something sounds as time passes and the very best albums are ones that age gracefully in some way

Lowkey I do take away from Carter 3 a little bit for the pop stuff not holding up, it’s part of why Tha Carter II is better, it’s more timeless and plays better today

And as much as you might pick a couple sounds out on NWTS, almost the entirety of GKMC production is so cheesy with all the snares and snare rolls being trash. Takes me out of that album more than anything on NWTS

From Time still better than loyalty. And if we talking about snaps and snares then we gotta switch the convo to GKMC. The snares and snare rolls on BDKMV are terrorism and it’s a problem through the album how corny the snares are

phq_

2y

the real s*** is if drake had writers for that 👀👀

Smacked Voodoo

2y

If he had writers for that then it truly is over for Drake and I don't wanna hear anything his stans gotta say after that.

I just highly doubt he had writers for that though.

Smacked Voodoo

2y

NWTS is definitely a product of its time, but that isn't always a bad thing. It's a lotta albums that sound old or have had their production not "age well" with the advancement in DAW tech/capabilities and general production techniques.

All that being said I still like NWTS much more than DAMN overall, however NWTS doesn't have songs on there that hit harder than Feel, Yah, or Fear to me

Sgt Leaf

2y

Imo Drake messing up not releasing anything, especially since he’s acting like he already has something.

If I was Drake I would give Euphoria no time to grow at all by releasing my s*** max 1 day after it came out

phq_

2y

the real s*** is if drake had writers for that 👀👀

deleteduser579

2y

”That’s the sort of record Kendrick and Keem are STILL trying to make, that song was actually way ahead of its time”

there’s not a single thing that indicates this man

they are worthless, because something sounding “dated” or “timeless” isn’t even well defined, the things typically considered “timeless” in hip-hop are typically soul sample or some boom bap, any pop album that is made within in the context of current trends, music, technology, whatever is going to inevitably sound “dated” it’s a hollow argument that can only be made in reference to the overarching sound palette of a genre, it makes no sense to take away an album or music at all for that

this sort of discussion only takes place in hip-hop discussions, you never see any rock fans or metal fans talking about something sounding “dated” or “old” at all

deleteduser579

2y

”That’s the sort of record Kendrick and Keem are STILL trying to make, that song was actually way ahead of its time”

there’s not a single thing that indicates this man

they are worthless, because something sounding “dated” or “timeless” isn’t even well defined, the things typically considered “timeless” in hip-hop are typically soul sample or some boom bap, any pop album that is made within in the context of current trends, music, technology, whatever is going to inevitably sound “dated” it’s a hollow argument that can only be made in reference to the overarching sound palette of a genre, it makes no sense to take away an album or music at all for that

this sort of discussion only takes place in hip-hop discussions, you never see any rock fans or metal fans talking about something sounding “dated” or “old” at all

TAXI

2y

Nvm chart positions. This song has made the news & boosted local business. Kendrick won

2words

2y

That discussion been happening in other genres forever

There’s an interesting thing that happened in the 70s-80s where a lot of critics decided that Sgt Peppers was actually dated because it was too associated with that “summer of love” moment in the 60s and all that big production style was great for the moment but not as impressive as time passed

And I wouldn’t go that far but the other albums are better when the dust settled and that’s kind of part of it

I get that it can be annoying to see the argument thrown around a lot but it’s really not a worthless idea. The albums that ultimately get considered the greatest have some quality of timelessness or ability to endure

NewCopeJustDropped

2y

Bleek f***ing with it.

Zeep

2y

replay valuye is crazy

deleteduser579

2y

yeah, but they criticized that album for being too reflective of its time versus being at least somewhat of a nuanced take on a pre-existing sound

like look at RAGE music for example, Carti brought it to the forefront and we have a load of clones and niggas that bit and copied off of that sound, years and decades from now, we will know exactly what time period it was when we hear that sort of production in the future, there’s good takes on a sound that are “timeless” in reference to the music that was around at the time, and there’s s*** that’s “dated” in the sense that it recycles tropes and doesn’t innovate or lacks individuality

N95 for example production wise is terrible to me production wise because it just sounds like a generic early to mid 2000s synth with hard drums on it even if Kendrick snapped on it, there’s not a lot of flavor to it, same with Virginia Beach which sounds like an extremely generic mid 2010s soul sample trap beat

LUKAS

2y

Kendrick gotta drop an album this year man. The energy he been on is hungry af