They think they’re being intellectuals by taking that position. Belittling everyone who is outraged by this is all part of the normalization process

how did people let them even direct this film or let the actresses do these dances in a room full of adults watching

Not seen the film and dont really have any intention to but this is a really stupid take.

There’s all manner of physical violence and sexual violence in loads of popular films. No one would say you’re definitely a serial killer for watching Saw, no one would say you’re definitely a rapist for watching Irreversible.

But there’s no difference between this film and child p***ography??

Anyone who defends this weird

There’s no real physical or sexual violence in any popular films, it’s all fiction and acting. It’s not really a difficult distinction to make for anyone with half a brain

Yes, this is cp

Man don't tell me people itt still defending this?

but your concern seems to be that pedophiles will be titilated by this film - yes all sexual violence in movies is acted but do you not think a real life rapist could be titilated by a graphic rape scene?

In any case regardless of your opinion on the content (which imo you’re absolutely justified in finding offensive), if the same film was made with an 18yo cast it wouldn’t be considered p***ographic in any way, so labelling this child p***ography is just silly

My primary concern is mostly that real children are being abused. The fact that a global streaming service are providing content for pedophiles and normalizing this kind of thing is also bothering me.

If the same film was made with 18 year olds then it would definitely be considered p***ographic or at least erotic. Did you miss the whole WAP outrage or something?

WAP is literally four minutes of very detailed and graphic descriptions of actual s***tho

Whats that

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I did not bypass the racy content. I literally spent a paragraph on it and even detailed my thoughts on how it made me feel. You're being extremely disingenuous. My focus in the review reflects the focus of the movie...and that is the main character's journey and how she navigates it.

Your concern about child welfare is noted. And it is ultimately up to the parents to OK this and the studio to provide a safe environment for the children. Somebody in this thread mentioned the cultural differences between France and the United States, which shouldn't be ignored. In France, s***education is mandatory from middle school and up so conversations around this topic occur at an early age. Also, the director has previous experience working with children and the studio had a child psychologist on set (which can be found in the end credits if you actually watched the movie). I just find it weird people like you make assertions like "people that organize these things don't care" without doing your own research when there is evidence to the contrary. This isn't even about the movie anymore, tbh. I just wish for more people find nuance in discussion and do research before speaking first.

Just seen ur edit. Totally understand the concern i just think the potential impact of the film is being wildly overstated and labelling it as cp, or anyone who watches it as a pedo, is possibly even trivialising real world exploitation and abuse

YouTube series that breaks down how the alt right works basically. This specific one that drew me in was about how the alt right uses the internet to gain support/momentum, and how they manipulate people into becoming radicals.

Why? That’s literally 2 high school students

has anyone actually watched the movie? i find it hard to believe that they "promote pedophilia". not justifying this at all but its gotta be part of some story

I haven’t seen it but I’m pretty sure they aren’t promoting pedophilia.

But they definitely crossed a line. I was under the impression it was like cheerleading dancing or like hip hop crew/something you would see on one of those dance competition shows.... but based on that clip last page, it’s like straight stripper style dancing.

Yo I own and adore most of Gaspar Noe's movies and this s*** is unacceptable.

It's not promoting pedophilia, it's talking about problematic and prominent it is in today's culture.

The issue is that it does so by straight up displaying sexualized minors unable to give formal consent and crossing lines.

It's not about what the film's trying to do if what it does is equally part of the issue.

interesting

finna give it a watch

It’s long but every minute is fantastic I promise you

I see. Makes a lot more sense. KTT w the usual exaggerated clickbait thread titles

I still think it's unacceptable. There are somethings you don't make a movie about and explicitly show. There's a difference between two consenting actors depicting something and legitimately getting children to sexualize themselves for a film.