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    If it's not a genocide, the actions taken + the virulent hardline anti-Palestinian rhetoric can very much lead to one.

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    When you accuse Israel of committing genocide against the Palestinians, you are accusing it of deliberately, systematically executing them en masse, hundreds of thousands or millions of them. You’re accusing Israel of an attempt to exterminate an entire people, like the Nazis did the Jews, like the Ottoman Turks did the Armenians, like the Hutus did the Tutsis in Rwanda. That’s what people think of when they hear the word “genocide.”

    This is a quote cited by the article from @Dream

    Palestinian citizens in Israel do not have full rights of other citizens (other Jewish ethnic minorities, such as Ethopian jews are racially oppressed as well), the population of Palestinian citizens is deliberately capped at 40%, their businesses also get destroyed reminiscent to the events of Kristallnacht during tension flareups.

  • May 28, 2021
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    Palestinian lives are treated with such contempt, people would rather argue semantics and whether it’s genocide or ethnic cleansing rather than how abhorrent either is, and when someone speaks out for Palestinians they’re a ‘virtue signaller’
    Truly unreal

  • May 28, 2021

    Wonder what these peoples defense would be for Israel controlling all (water, electricity, most borders) of Gaza while at the same time bombing it lol

  • May 28, 2021
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    eye contact

    https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/29/most-israelis-support-soldier-accused-of-shooting-palestinian

    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2015/11/9/poll-53-israelis-support-extrajudicial-killings

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3381978,00.html

    these arent sources

    this is en.idi.org.il/articles/23407

    ima read up on what happened in gaza in 2018 before i form any opinion

  • May 28, 2021
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    HFM

    Palestinian lives are treated with such contempt, people would rather argue semantics and whether it’s genocide or ethnic cleansing rather than how abhorrent either is, and when someone speaks out for Palestinians they’re a ‘virtue signaller’
    Truly unreal

    you are literally publicly justifying the actions of an openly antisemetic terrorist organization just because they’re not as strong as their openly islamaphobic terrorist opposition

    you are a virtue signaler

  • Pretty based.

  • May 28, 2021
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    HFM

    Yeah bro strong virtue signalling happening here by saying genocide is wrong
    You coward

    holy f*** man you’re so brave condemning a genocide

    look at you

  • May 28, 2021
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    KOLLAPS

    you are literally publicly justifying the actions of an openly antisemetic terrorist organization just because they’re not as strong as their openly islamaphobic terrorist opposition

    you are a virtue signaler

    I quite literally said Hamas’ actions are wrong but that should not be the focus, in the same way that Nelson Mandela and the ANC’s acts of violence against civilians were wrong but shouldn’t have been the focus

    That post is public and people can read it but you just don’t like what you see

  • May 28, 2021

    I personally believe in the two-state solution with 1967 borders.

  • May 28, 2021
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    HFM

    I quite literally said Hamas’ actions are wrong but that should not be the focus, in the same way that Nelson Mandela and the ANC’s acts of violence against civilians were wrong but shouldn’t have been the focus

    That post is public and people can read it but you just don’t like what you see

    so you do not care about human life

    you care about screaming free palestine

    f*** you

  • May 28, 2021

    the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group

  • May 28, 2021
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    KOLLAPS

    holy f*** man you’re so brave condemning a genocide

    look at you

    Quite the opposite, I’m saying that it’s a fairly simple ethical stance that most people should have, it’s not brave so hardly an act of virtue signalling.

  • May 28, 2021
    KOLLAPS

    these arent sources

    this is https://en.idi.org.il/articles/23407

    ima read up on what happened in gaza in 2018 before i form any opinion

    yeah and you can see that there is an express interest in Israeli interests over Palestinian ones

  • May 28, 2021
    HFM

    Quite the opposite, I’m saying that it’s a fairly simple ethical stance that most people should have, it’s not brave so hardly an act of virtue signalling.

    stop quoting me thanks :)

  • May 28, 2021
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    KOLLAPS

    so you do not care about human life

    you care about screaming free palestine

    f*** you

    Are all your stances this reductive?
    Do you think Nelson Mandela was a terrorist?

  • May 28, 2021

    its somebody going out bad ITT, u know who u are, get some fresh air fam.... get off the internet for a while

  • May 28, 2021

    isrealies : omg royce da 59 signed this?!

  • May 28, 2021
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    sniper

    If it's not a genocide, the actions taken + the virulent hardline anti-Palestinian rhetoric can very much lead to one.

    Valid imo. Also I don't think anyone is virtue signalling here, I think it's genuine compassion for the horrific scenes we always see in Gaza.

    Call it whataboutery but I'm always confused why we never saw these scenes when Americans, Brits and others flattened Raqqa, Mosul etc and killed tens of thousands of civilians just a few years ago when trying to defeat ISIS. No press, no reports, no sympathy, just silence. And only 10 years after America previously killed tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians in the same area for no reason. But that's a whole other story.

  • May 28, 2021
    Dream

    Valid imo. Also I don't think anyone is virtue signalling here, I think it's genuine compassion for the horrific scenes we always see in Gaza.

    Call it whataboutery but I'm always confused why we never saw these scenes when Americans, Brits and others flattened Raqqa, Mosul etc and killed tens of thousands of civilians just a few years ago when trying to defeat ISIS. No press, no reports, no sympathy, just silence. And only 10 years after America previously killed tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians in the same area for no reason. But that's a whole other story.

    A huge part of the same group talking about this issue is against everything western countries have done in north africa and the middle east lol

  • May 28, 2021

    Israel:

    but it isn’t apartheid

  • May 28, 2021
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    Dream

    Valid imo. Also I don't think anyone is virtue signalling here, I think it's genuine compassion for the horrific scenes we always see in Gaza.

    Call it whataboutery but I'm always confused why we never saw these scenes when Americans, Brits and others flattened Raqqa, Mosul etc and killed tens of thousands of civilians just a few years ago when trying to defeat ISIS. No press, no reports, no sympathy, just silence. And only 10 years after America previously killed tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians in the same area for no reason. But that's a whole other story.

    Western actions in Iraq deserve equal condemnation, but that’s not really relevant and an all lives matter point

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    sniper

    If it's not a genocide, the actions taken + the virulent hardline anti-Palestinian rhetoric can very much lead to one.

    People could shape it anyway they want but there are Israeli officials who've essentially called for all but genocide, if not directly

    There are 92,000 families in Israel in which one of the partners is not Jewish - we have a real problem that we have to deal with."
    – Tzipi Hotovely, current deputy foreign minister, 2011.


    Here are a few more sources:

    imeu.org/article/extremism-incitement-to-racial-hatred-senior-israeli-officials-in-their-own

    washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/03/10/israeli-foreign-minister-says-disloyal-arabs-should-be-beheaded

  • May 28, 2021
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    People could shape it anyway they want but there are Israeli officials who've essentially called for all but genocide, if not directly

    There are 92,000 families in Israel in which one of the partners is not Jewish - we have a real problem that we have to deal with."
    – Tzipi Hotovely, current deputy foreign minister, 2011.


    Here are a few more sources:

    https://imeu.org/article/extremism-incitement-to-racial-hatred-senior-israeli-officials-in-their-own

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/03/10/israeli-foreign-minister-says-disloyal-arabs-should-be-beheaded/

    I feel like a tabloid writer posting those types of quote images but it was the only place I could find them.

  • May 28, 2021

    GOAT S***

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