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  • Nov 27, 2021
    CKL TML

    Coke would explain this

  • Nov 27, 2021
    mctate

    if you ever seen kanye smoke, you can tell he does not smoke lol

    seen it 2 times and both times were funny

    he mentioned doing DMT one time but hardly can imagine he abuses it. coke is just rumored

    alcohol the onnly thing we can say he potentially has abused

    The guy has openly talked about alcohol addiction bro

  • Nov 27, 2021

    great art comes from suffering/pain/struggle

    someone who lives an easy balanced clean life will probably not make great art. they totally still can but its less common.

    so its not that all our musicians live unbalanced lives, its that the ones who do tend to be more successful, leading to an overrepresentation in our pop culture

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    I rlly doubt its a sign of societal decline great artists have always tended to be a lil wild I mean look at Mozart

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    The best artists are often unbalanced. They live in their own movie 24/7. Sometimes full of disgusting behavior. Constantly rationalizing irrational choices. A career in the arts itself is irrational by society’s measure.

    That lends itself to great art.

    Some type of pain is usually a prerequisite. Whether u got daddy issues, or napoleon complex, or you was down bad in the streets etc. or All of it.

    Remember music is expression, an outlet

    I think There’s 4 main types of really great artists

    • The real ass solid nigga (Kendrick)

    • The Crazy & Delusional (Kanye)

    • The Observer (Nas)

    • The Child Prodigy (Wayne)

    And they can intersect and be present in varying degreez

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    bloom

    The best artists are often unbalanced. They live in their own movie 24/7. Sometimes full of disgusting behavior. Constantly rationalizing irrational choices. A career in the arts itself is irrational by society’s measure.

    That lends itself to great art.

    Some type of pain is usually a prerequisite. Whether u got daddy issues, or napoleon complex, or you was down bad in the streets etc. or All of it.

    Remember music is expression, an outlet

    I think There’s 4 main types of really great artists

    • The real ass solid nigga (Kendrick)

    • The Crazy & Delusional (Kanye)

    • The Observer (Nas)

    • The Child Prodigy (Wayne)

    And they can intersect and be present in varying degreez

    Kendrick always said 2Pac called him in his dream and told him to rap and continue his legacy so in a way he's crazy too, he also seems to have a God complex according to his more recent songs/verses/stunts

    I think he's highly inspired by Kanye just in a more lowkey way

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    J2422

    Kendrick always said 2Pac called him in his dream and told him to rap and continue his legacy so in a way he's crazy too, he also seems to have a God complex according to his more recent songs/verses/stunts

    I think he's highly inspired by Kanye just in a more lowkey way

    Yeah Kendrick’s definitely crazy. However he seems grounded in reality and humbled by life more so than Kanye has ever been in the last 15 years.

    Everybody is a little crazy but if that turns out to be the thing that defines you, that’s a different convo.

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    bloom

    Yeah Kendrick’s definitely crazy. However he seems grounded in reality and humbled by life more so than Kanye has ever been in the last 15 years.

    Everybody is a little crazy but if that turns out to be the thing that defines you, that’s a different convo.

    Kanye will never change, I remember when ye+JIK dropped he used to say he was humbled, but a few days ago he finally admitted he just used Christianity to inflate his own ego lol

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    The weight of the world is on their shoulders. Pressure from the Label to create, tour, press, forced social media posts, paparazzi etc. 24 hour surveillance depending on if you're willing to live in LA or parts of NYC. It'd be weak af to see yourself on TMZ once/twice a week and some smarmy placebo babies talkin about your fit.

    Then you have your family who u wanna take care of but your sales are wack so while you're living your 'dream' your family is in their same living situation because u signed a 360 deal and are now a slave towards entertainment.

    Lastly you have your fans. Those day ones who love you no matter what. They see your music changing or u aren't releasing because you have writers block, depression, hangovers etc and start doing d**** from your new party life of networking, coping and "brainstorming"

    Being a fulltime popstar or B+ tier artist in the beast system requires a lotta maneuvering. lol I'm just talkin s*** idk wtf I'm talkin about

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    Bestowed

    The weight of the world is on their shoulders. Pressure from the Label to create, tour, press, forced social media posts, paparazzi etc. 24 hour surveillance depending on if you're willing to live in LA or parts of NYC. It'd be weak af to see yourself on TMZ once/twice a week and some smarmy placebo babies talkin about your fit.

    Then you have your family who u wanna take care of but your sales are wack so while you're living your 'dream' your family is in their same living situation because u signed a 360 deal and are now a slave towards entertainment.

    Lastly you have your fans. Those day ones who love you no matter what. They see your music changing or u aren't releasing because you have writers block, depression, hangovers etc and start doing d**** from your new party life of networking, coping and "brainstorming"

    Being a fulltime popstar or B+ tier artist in the beast system requires a lotta maneuvering. lol I'm just talkin s*** idk wtf I'm talkin about

    It’s not just the fame and it’s pressures. A lot of artists are already completely f***ed up before they ever get on.

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    It’s not just the fame and it’s pressures. A lot of artists are already completely f***ed up before they ever get on.

    That's true too. Not everyone is f***ed up but it seems like the one's we see on tv are hooked. I hope some of it is to maintain an image and they aren't abusing the d**** as much as they say.

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    J2422

    Kanye will never change, I remember when ye+JIK dropped he used to say he was humbled, but a few days ago he finally admitted he just used Christianity to inflate his own ego lol

    Link to that kanye quote? No way he actually said that

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    Bestowed

    That's true too. Not everyone is f***ed up but it seems like the one's we see on tv are hooked. I hope some of it is to maintain an image and they aren't abusing the d**** as much as they say.

    It’s no wonder most these celebs start falling like dominoes in their 60s

  • Nov 27, 2021
    NEW EQUITY

    Iirc 21 savage straight edge

    21 sips lean. ICE caught him sipping while driving iirc

  • Nov 27, 2021
    bloom

    Link to that kanye quote? No way he actually said that

    watch his thanksgiving prayer on his ig

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    bloom

    Link to that kanye quote? No way he actually said that

    pitchfork.com/news/kanye-west-talks-kim-kardashian-his-mental-health-more-in-reflective-thanksgiving-prayer-video-watch

    "When I got saved it did not immediately make me a better person. It made me a self-righteous Christian."

    "Mix that with being rich, famous, and very very very very very very attractive, and you got a molotov cocktail ready to be thrown through the window of anyone who ever disagreed with me. I was arrogant with my Jesus, like I had just got me some Jesus at the Gucci store with a stimulus check."

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    J2422

    https://pitchfork.com/news/kanye-west-talks-kim-kardashian-his-mental-health-more-in-reflective-thanksgiving-prayer-video-watch/

    "When I got saved it did not immediately make me a better person. It made me a self-righteous Christian."

    "Mix that with being rich, famous, and very very very very very very attractive, and you got a molotov cocktail ready to be thrown through the window of anyone who ever disagreed with me. I was arrogant with my Jesus, like I had just got me some Jesus at the Gucci store with a stimulus check."

    Jesus at the gucci store with a stimulus check 😂😂 Ye is unhinged

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    bloom

    Jesus at the gucci store with a stimulus check 😂😂 Ye is unhinged

    Bruh was selling overpriced Jesus sweatershirts and hoodies to white atheist hipster kids with rich parents

  • Nov 27, 2021
    mctate

    he does not have coke pictures lol

    he wasnt an alcoholic either he does drink tho

    we talking abuse d**** or we taking has done a d*** 1 time lol

    You must’ve missed the one earlier in the thread

  • Nov 27, 2021
    mctate

    he does not have coke pictures lol

    he wasnt an alcoholic either he does drink tho

    we talking abuse d**** or we taking has done a d*** 1 time lol

    He also just said he had an alcohol problem in his thanksgiving prayer yesterday lololol

  • Nov 27, 2021
    fashion killa

    I rlly doubt its a sign of societal decline great artists have always tended to be a lil wild I mean look at Mozart

    Van Gogh, Picasso, Shakespeare, ray charles all great examples

  • Nov 27, 2021

    lecherous carnality or affront it

    Entire thread was created as an excuse to use these words

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    J2422

    Kanye will never change, I remember when ye+JIK dropped he used to say he was humbled, but a few days ago he finally admitted he just used Christianity to inflate his own ego lol

    He said that’s what he did at first. Donda era seems much more genuine. He also said this in a PRAYER that dropped yesterday lol

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    925Andrew

    He said that’s what he did at first. Donda era seems much more genuine. He also said this in a PRAYER that dropped yesterday lol

    ngl parts of donda seemed genuine for sure but id be lying if i didn't say it felt a little fake or like he was trying rlly hard to come across a certain way

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    925Andrew

    He said that’s what he did at first. Donda era seems much more genuine. He also said this in a PRAYER that dropped yesterday lol

    Narcissism can rarely ever really be cured

    He can try to make it seem like he's changing for a little while, but then he'll always fall back to the real him

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