So you think Trump is lying....but SHE isn't??
Trump and Rubio both said they spoke to her. The U.S. didn't pluck Maduro just to have no communication with the country afterwards. They already haven't kept up with Machado according to themsleves
Yes, I believe her over the men who've been lying about Venezuela nonstop.
Her dad was killed by the CIA and now you're expecting us to blindly believe she's collaborated with the US to get Maduro out. We should all just take Trump and Marco Rubio's words on it over her own.
He compared the operation to watching TV. So probably
Her dad was killed by the CIA and now you're expecting us to blindly believe she's collaborated with the US to get Maduro out. We should all just take Trump and Marco Rubio's words on it over her own.
I'm really surprised how stuck you guys are on this point about her dad, as if its even relevant to the current situation. It mighta been 2 years ago but she has no free will at the moment. Like this isn't even rare for the history of covert ops in LatAm
Personally, I think everyone involved is a liar anyways so lets just cancel out the quotes. Let's just go off the actions at hand:
This is a U.S. covert action aimed at regime/dictator change. These operations are carefully planned, involving the deployment of ground operatives (for months), forces on standby, and the use of financial incentives to encourage internal defections. The U.S. rarely executes such a mission without first securing a successor or some idea of transition. You're suggesting that they made a move to oust Maduro, and keep his inner circle in place, despite several also having U.S. indictments? What does that do here
I'm really surprised how stuck you guys are on this point about her dad, as if its even relevant to the current situation. It mighta been 2 years ago but she has no free will at the moment. Like this isn't even rare for the history of covert ops in LatAm
Personally, I think everyone involved is a liar anyways so lets just cancel out the quotes. Let's just go off the actions at hand:
This is a U.S. covert action aimed at regime/dictator change. These operations are carefully planned, involving the deployment of ground operatives (for months), forces on standby, and the use of financial incentives to encourage internal defections. The U.S. rarely executes such a mission without first securing a successor or some idea of transition. You're suggesting that they made a move to oust Maduro, and keep his inner circle in place, despite several also having U.S. indictments? What does that do here
if you think Trump would replace Maduro with one of his loyalists who's also a Marxist Leninist you're insane. She was VP, she was always going to step in and the Venezuelan government had already announced that they were ready to replace Maduro if anything had happen to him months ago.
If Delcy was defiant against Rubio she would have already been sacked. The fact she and the circle are even in this position is damning.
They all caved, didn't fight and let their leader be taken. All of the tough talk by her and the Defense Min when barely any weapons were used to defend their President. Its just pathetic empty posturing. Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino's (who has a U.S. indictment) military was nowhere to be seen, but now all of sudden he wants to talk tough? Where were you???? What actual actions are being taken?
Delcy being the NYT's favorite pick in early December tells you everything you need to know here. I'm sure there was a day she held strong beliefs but that clearly isn't today
if you think Trump would replace Maduro with one of his loyalists who's also a Marxist Leninist you're insane. She was VP, she was always going to step in and the Venezuelan government had already announced that they were ready to replace Maduro if anything had happen to him months ago.
They want a leadership swap without the power vacuum. You reach an agreement with the VP and move on as scheduled
If Trump/Rubio were calling Maduro over the last couple months, why is it so hard to believe Delcy's in touch too?
She's not a loyalist anymore evidently. You answer instructions or she'll be on the next flight or ship to NYC as well.
Did any of the inner circle even attempt the flee the country? Or are all still working in their same positions? Lol give me a break
They want a leadership swap without the power vacuum. You reach an agreement with the VP and move on as scheduled
If Trump/Rubio were calling Maduro over the last couple months, why is it so hard to believe Delcy's in touch too?
She's not a loyalist anymore evidently. You answer instructions or she'll be on the next flight or ship to NYC as well.
Rubio claimed she's not a legitimate leader hours ago and the video you posted proves my point. you have no idea what you're talking about.
Marco Rubio is a miami Cuban and you think he'd collab with a commie lol this would go against his plans for Cuba.
IAHH was around when KTT2 came out, but I haven't seen him since the early days.
That thread with him being on Stormfront is a classic
I have no qualms about Rodriguez selling out Maduro to avoid a larger scale war against the US, I’m sure he wouldn’t either. These are politicians, not friends, and Maduro isn’t the reason the Venezuelan government holds together but rather the bureaucracy and paramilitaries that serve whoever can build a strong cult of personality <- this is the bigger crux than Maduro simply leaving office
If she is able to maintain state-owned oil enterprises and ties with other LatAm (Cuba) in exchange for switching exports to the US over ChiRus then I get it tbh.
Rubio claimed she's not a legitimate leader hours ago and the video you posted proves my point. you have no idea what you're talking about.
I thought you didn't listen to what Rubio said because he lies. Everyones just giving their audience what they need to hear right now
also, he later said this was her test. if she acts up she's out. its simple
I thought you didn't listen to what Rubio said because he lies. Everyones just giving their audience what they need to hear right now
also, he later said this was her test. if she acts up she's out. its simple
you got me.
you got me.
Dude was saying Delcy struck a deal with Rubio and was handpicked to loot the country's oil five pages ago.
Can't blame him for listening to the US state media I guess. Woeful stuff
Nigga just said he pray niggas hit NY, nigga my family out here f*** what son talking about
Yeah so?
Dude was saying Delcy struck a deal with Rubio and was handpicked to loot the country's oil five pages ago.
Can't blame him for listening to the US state media I guess. Woeful stuff
Its a conversation man. All i did what a***yze what might be happening. Why is this point on Delcy an issue? I'm honestly curious at this beyond the CIA stuff.
U.S. media isn't necessarily worth taking word for word, but it is a signal to what higher ups often are thinking. Especially the NYT, which funnels neo-con positions and actions routinely. It was them who tried to position Delcy as a "moderate," which we all know is BS, and you correctly countered with the WSJ article. You can post U.S. media but its an issue when I do?
The article you post literally repeats elements of Trump/Rubio calling Delcy after the capture, and ultimately ties her fate to her actions. Did you even read it
Its a conversation man. All i did what a***yze what might be happening. Why is this point on Delcy an issue? I'm honestly curious at this beyond the CIA stuff.
U.S. media isn't necessarily worth taking word for word, but it is a signal to what higher ups often are thinking. Especially the NYT, which funnels neo-con positions and actions routinely. It was them who tried to position Delcy as a "moderate," which we all know is BS, and you correctly countered with the WSJ article. You can post U.S. media but its an issue when I do?
The article you post literally repeats elements of Trump/Rubio calling Delcy after the capture, and ultimately ties her fate to her actions. Did you even read it
It's specualtion based on US state media and Trump posts. And not once did you just quote Delcy on the topic.
And the post is to illustrate that the media has not dubbed her the hand picked successor who will loot the country's oil. As you suggested 5 hours ago