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Lil Tony

ktt1 tier thread salute!

Break this one down for me king

great thread @op

Nas made a classic at the same age while being a young black man in rural city America…Nettspend is a heroin addict who got lucky Twitter/tiktok likes his low effort music lol

like those lyrics in that picture are HORRIBLE to be used as a mark for look at dude lmfaoooo

i refuse to accept the age excuse for that lack of. a decade from now, niggas gone look back at this nettspend/xaviorsobased era and just be like what in the f*** even was all of that? lmfao

only nigga i seen defend Nettspend so hard like that was Melz

no dave blunts f*** op

and I really got abandoned by my faaaaaather

Keep in mind I never made claims about him being a skilled writer nor it being intentional nor if the music is good

I alr said it’s dif from the rest and I talked ab on a meta level, but so what you don’t think a 16 year old talking about suicidal ideation, d*** addiction, homelessness, all in between bouts of Hedonism calling himself ”future but gen z” can be quite depressing and vulnerable ? Subtext dawg.

We have no knowing of whether the music is high effort or not the guy makes a LOT of music he’s in the studio 24/7. He’s a genuinely troubled kid talking how he knows in a dark way that reframes what he says to me. What he’s revealing under the main subject matter isn’t fun. Whether it’s written in a juvenile simple way or not.

Funny how you compare him to one of the most exceptional young talents of all time to invalidate and cherrypick the one example I said was dif from the others in the fact it’s on a meta level that I said in the post is written in a juvenile way. It wasn’t a claim of writing skill lol

Xaviersobased is a very genuine, innovative, and influential artist that popularized an entire subgenre and carried a collective to global influence. Doubt he’ll be looked at that way. these are underground artists, not superstars. Basicallty all the ones in OP have significantly more commercial success lol. I listed 15 artists if 1 example where I literally say it’s unique and juvenile defines it all for you ur just looking for what u wanna see.

I’m talking about meaning and vulnerability from unexpected places, not lyricists man.

Ok break this down for me too for the lyricists DMX and biggie

I haven’t dove into his s*** much but 10 percs was pretty sad tbh hard for me to take him serious tho for all the gimmicks and Kanye stuff and shock factor but he seems to be pretty honest about his pain in an earnest way

bringing up dead men who were discussed when that was happening when we talking about what Veeze said currently and is posted as an example of today’s substance in OP is an interesting angle. we all know the one substance all these niggas want, it’s why they glad they got successful rapping sicko mode

point is dismissing an artist and their vulnerability or substance off cherry picked wild lyrics is off topic and derailing and I could do it for a variety of artists alllll day. Did it make DMX or Biggie substanceless rappers? Using addiction issues to dismiss people’s art is weird man. Keep in DMX did CRACK and ODB did every d*** on earth

I'm praying for yall lil niggas so much man

yeah s*** not going well for the youth, what’s the connection to what I’m sayin tho fr I don’t mean it in a bad way I just don’t understand

not doing this with you melz.

I’m not defending Biggie nor X

you the one who brought them up because I’m tryna speak on why Veeze casually talking about date rape today and being used as an example of substance in the game today

I woulda questioned the same s*** bout them niggas if I was in my 20s in the 90s LOL

Is your argument gonna be to dismiss all you’ve been shown by the fact literacy rates are down that invalidates the vulnerability and substance in what was shown?

with that said tho, the substance is lacking. especially from a heroin addict white kid who just playing with sounds on a computer keyboard that other “I see myself in him” kids attach to like it’s something of quality or substance lmao

I didn’t use that bad lines from that leak as an example of substance. So do you think DMX, biggie, Tyler the creator and the huge wealth of old school rappers with questionable lines didnt talk about anything of substance for their career because of their cherrypicked bad lines ? Since that’s what your using to somehow invalidate veeze in the same way?

non-black fans of hip hop defending suburban cacs cosplaying trap niggas.

I done seen it all - $ilkmoney

Why do yall just derail and not engage with the topic in any way just because a side mention of nettspend bothers u
Keep in mind the fact ur quoting silkmoney supports what im saying

dismissing 15 other people’s art cuz of one side mention that’s sad on a meta level just cuz u don’t like the artist and wanna dismiss the child’s existence or what could be interesting about his art ok dawg