semantics pointless back and forth then

Please read before getting so passionate

I love your infectious energy and I want you to distribute it for good purposes

i opened this thread and the first line of op mentions JID, who dropped The Never Story 9 years ago, as “new”

so yeah, of course i’m gonna respond to a thread about “new rappers” saying “these aren’t new rappers”

Why r u still arguing dis tho cuz u cherry picked one guy that I said wasn’t part of my point when we alr showed u 11 of the 12 ppl I was focused on in OP were undeniably new lol who cares ab semantics
Sure bro exclude JID idc I only included mike and JID cuz they r commonly seen as acts that have flourished recently

you’re using Ganger to say that’s when Veeze blew up but people were waiting on that album for a while, he was already big before then

you can’t judge when an artist blew up by their first album’s release date

Holy s*** my bad I guess I have to perfectly track the audience investment timeline in veeze then to mention him in my ktt2 thread
Ganger was his first album. That’s 2023

bruh shut up

we have threads on here about Veeze dating back to 2020 lol

not sure why people in here are getting heated over a simple comment

Yea ktt tends to be early to stuff that doesn’t rly change his first album was 2023

Doechii too, she was an XXL freshman in 2022, but XXL is always late on who’s popular

…yea she was on there 2 years before her first LP and a year before her first hit correct

Substance isn't the same thing as the subject. A 13 year old writes emo poetry and there's nothing to it

^ !!!!!

I thought this schtick of trying to make niggas seem deeper than they are died with the 2016 class

that poetry can have substance and just not be well written if ur arguing yea the substance is there just not the writing thats a dif point and id prolly disagree for most of the ppl id cite
keep in mind tho "I wanna highlight where it isn’t recognized in artists that’s appeal don’t rest on their subject matter or are perceived that way"

Well which artists?

jim, doechii, veeze, fakemink, untiljapan, 454, nino paid, lil tony, feng, prettifun, babyface ray, jane remover and skeletrix id say

The only one of these artists that gets a lot of undeserved hate is Doechii and it's not for lacking substance

Don’t think I said anything about undeserved hate at any point tho

Niggss is rapping jus no 1 care

The thread feels like you're mounting a defense. It implies people are saying this isn't the case

And this points to the fact that art is not about just ticking off a checklist it's more ethereal and intangible :)