I know Chappelle going to joke about how the media that hesitates on Epstein associates not named Trump and Weinstein associates has a lot to say about mj
liked it, though it should have been like 30 mins longer
hopefully we get an extended version for the digital release
liked it, though it should have been like 30 mins longer
hopefully we get an extended version for the digital release
hopefully one day way down the line we get a supercut of both movies with bonus scenes added to botj
hows this so far to the people who've seen this? I got tickets for saturday/
See it for 5$ with T Mobile Tuesdays if you need a code I got you
I mean it was good deff not worth that low of a tomato score. But it wasnt amazing in any means
all i care about is @KingOfPop review
all i care about is @KingOfPop review
Should put their review in op for when people ask lol or list page
I mean it was good deff not worth that low of a tomato score. But it wasnt amazing in any means
After all that s***ting you did on it 24 hours ago
After all that s***ting you did on it 24 hours ago

I always doom when i see critic scores even though i hate critics. Need to do better
But also my friends told me not to be excited so they set me up for disappointment
This is a crazy accomplishment makes sense why they hating . Project Hail Mary something they wanted to succeed not this . Again I don’t think it will be perfect but think they over hated
This is a crazy accomplishment makes sense why they hating . Project Hail Mary something they wanted to succeed not this . Again I don’t think it will be perfect but think they over hated
Of course they did
Again, hilarious people were in here jumping up and down when the RT score was low
Silence when it goes up and predicted to smash records
F*** the lot of them
It’s kind of crazy seeing the same debates from early 2000s ,2010,2019 when neverland doc dropped occurring all over again . It’s dystopian in a way especially for someone who saw court and died . At a time where Weinstein , Diddy , Epstein , ghislaine all go down but their clients aren’t held accountable
Seeing many from all groups wanting to hate on MJ or wanting this movie to be everything . How would they market a movie that ends in allegations with children ? Nor do I think our society is mature enough to take it seriously when we saw it in a punchline in a beef , no Diddy jokes and Epstein ai memes .
I don’t think biopic should be worshipping or sanitization while at the same time how dark of a movie would part 2 be if it’s him calling out the industry , sleeping next to children and ending in his death .
How perverse would it be to hype and sell that . To relive that and the arguments that come with it for financial value
Who knows where this goes next . Sorry just saw people arguing all over Twitter again
It’s kind of crazy seeing the same debates from early 2000s ,2010,2019 when neverland doc dropped occurring all over again . It’s dystopian in a way especially for someone who saw court and died . At a time where Weinstein , Diddy , Epstein , ghislaine all go down but their clients aren’t held accountable
Seeing many from all groups wanting to hate on MJ or wanting this movie to be everything . How would they market a movie that ends in allegations with children ? Nor do I think our society is mature enough to take it seriously when we saw it in a punchline in a beef , no Diddy jokes and Epstein ai memes .
I don’t think biopic should be worshipping or sanitization while at the same time how dark of a movie would part 2 be if it’s him calling out the industry , sleeping next to children and ending in his death .
How perverse would it be to hype and sell that . To relive that and the arguments that come with it for financial value
Who knows where this goes next . Sorry just saw people arguing all over Twitter again
I will say though man, apologies if this isn't new info to you, but the original script planned to open with MJ looking in the mirror at Neverland while police lights flashed in the background and we hear audio about him being arrested, it was gonna directly address the allegations, but then, far into production, it was discovered that as part of the original legal settlement, it was forbidden to dramatise the allegations or trial at all, so a lot of reshoots and restructuring had to be done
Fuqua wanted to include them, but it was literally illegal for them to put that in the movie, and an MJ biopic that doesn't include them is gonna feel like an integral part is missing, it's not to argue that he's guilty or innocent, but it was absolutely one of the most consequential periods of his life, and the fact that the sequel won't even be able to address it is insane. At that point why bother? It's like that David Bowie biopic from a few years back that didn't get the rights to his songs, it just feels absurd to not address that considering the gigantic role it played in his life and public perception from the 1990s onwards, not to mention how it informed his music
I will say though man, apologies if this isn't new info to you, but the original script planned to open with MJ looking in the mirror at Neverland while police lights flashed in the background and we hear audio about him being arrested, it was gonna directly address the allegations, but then, far into production, it was discovered that as part of the original legal settlement, it was forbidden to dramatise the allegations or trial at all, so a lot of reshoots and restructuring had to be done
Fuqua wanted to include them, but it was literally illegal for them to put that in the movie, and an MJ biopic that doesn't include them is gonna feel like an integral part is missing, it's not to argue that he's guilty or innocent, but it was absolutely one of the most consequential periods of his life, and the fact that the sequel won't even be able to address it is insane. At that point why bother? It's like that David Bowie biopic from a few years back that didn't get the rights to his songs, it just feels absurd to not address that considering the gigantic role it played in his life and public perception from the 1990s onwards, not to mention how it informed his music
I think addressing the allegations overall and how they affected his life is central but specifically the Jordan chandler ones ? Where if they did it kind of shows it was to some degree fabricated to get money ? It would make the chandlers look bad . Which is part of what goes against their settlement too . If I’m gathering right from what I’m reading
i refuse to watch this BULLSHIT
rip MJ the goat the aura is impeccable
It's a good film humanising him during the most important part of his life while also acknowledging he was eccentric + isolated
It’s kind of crazy seeing the same debates from early 2000s ,2010,2019 when neverland doc dropped occurring all over again . It’s dystopian in a way especially for someone who saw court and died . At a time where Weinstein , Diddy , Epstein , ghislaine all go down but their clients aren’t held accountable
Seeing many from all groups wanting to hate on MJ or wanting this movie to be everything . How would they market a movie that ends in allegations with children ? Nor do I think our society is mature enough to take it seriously when we saw it in a punchline in a beef , no Diddy jokes and Epstein ai memes .
I don’t think biopic should be worshipping or sanitization while at the same time how dark of a movie would part 2 be if it’s him calling out the industry , sleeping next to children and ending in his death .
How perverse would it be to hype and sell that . To relive that and the arguments that come with it for financial value
Who knows where this goes next . Sorry just saw people arguing all over Twitter again
Part 2 should be dark but it should be about the media turning on him leading to his death in contrast with part 1 being about them hyping up to be a star
A good representation of what every star goes through. They love you on your way up but once you get there they want to tear you down
They can do that with more than just the allegations too. Media made fun of him for his looks, plastic surgeries, disease
Part 2 should be dark but it should be about the media turning on him leading to his death in contrast with part 1 being about them hyping up to be a star
A good representation of what every star goes through. They love you on your way up but once you get there they want to tear you down
They can do that with more than just the allegations too. Media made fun of him for his looks, plastic surgeries, disease
Part 1 got quite dark in places so it can definitely continue in a similar vein.
They can tell the story without focusing on 1993, it'll just be interesting to see how they decide to frame it.
Part 1 got quite dark in places so it can definitely continue in a similar vein.
They can tell the story without focusing on 1993, it'll just be interesting to see how they decide to frame it.
Yeah there’s way more the media did than just the allegations to tear MJ down. Even made jokes about his Pepsi accident. 90s-2000s pop culture was brutal
Still need to watch this, maybe they did touch on media starting to turn on him