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  • RASIE 🎣
    Jul 17, 2022
    slyTendencies

    Regardless of where you stand about MJ, at the very least you have to admit the sleepovers with kids in his bed was weirdo s***.

    This never happened

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    frenchpress

    yea
    i think by today's standards it's all gonna look weird regardless. but also between the 80s/90s and now parents be overboard with the helicoptering these kids aint outside at all they on Roblox For iPad and bein envious of the 1-2 friends they got who can have sleepovers whose parents are considered the scum of the earth by all the other parents dis is smthn i think is just gonna get more indecipherable with time sadly. ykno the ppl got their reasons n i think their worries make sense, i just don't think mj was ever doin any of the s*** that ppl worried bout

    most of the talk is just "well, that's weird isn't it obvious??" but that's just the sheltering talking. ppl got it in their mind that modern-day-red-flag = bad stuff is 100% guaranteed to be happening. but ppl makin their red flags so broad yet strict nowadays that they can't even understand why a sleepover Might Not lead to their child being abused. there's no other possibilities. we're talkin bout kids, so i can understand the protectiveness. but i also think it just makes these convos hard bc u can't even state a situation w/o the response just being "this situation = this result. always."

    This s*** was not normal in the 80s and 90s wtf are you talking about & why do you think people had an issue with it back then lmao. A lot of child laws were started IN THE 80s because of all the wild s*** in the 50s to then happening & parents not having any way to keep their children watched or cared for due to limited technology & the work they had to always do.

    Also the 80s n 70s had way higher cases of cults, church & boarding school abuse so if you think thats the golden era for children even tho people say different & the reports, then ok 💀💀

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    Michael Jackson wasn’t a pedophile those ppl extorted him and the media took advantage of the situation. He was bigger than the beatles and owned their catalog among other white artists got with Elvis daughter and has the highest selling album above white artists so he ruffled some white feathers.

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    Water Giver
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    It also sets a terrible example for the kid going forward thinking its ok with "anyone" & makes them open to more possibilities.

    Part of the reason why you stop breast feeding at a certain age with a child or them being in your bed. Boundaries, maturity & independence.

    Regardless of MJ not touching them, it is weird. And kids literally dont know better. They are not adults (literally their brain isnt even 3 quarters developed yet lol nevermind everything else) & pretending they are opens up so many dangerous situations.

    Yeah he probably didnt touch them, yeah other adults probably were trying to extort him after the first initial cases/controversy.

    But its still weird, and definitely shouldnt be normalized.

    The first accusation is documented extortion from the outset. The following accusations all use that and Victor Gutierrez bullshit reporting as a blueprint

    MJ was wise enough in 03 to not share a bed with the Arvizo’s but Janet was a historic grifter who grifted JC Penney and tried to get many celebs including Jay Leno and Chris Tucker. MJ was an easy target & played into their hands with his naivety and kindness

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    scumbag

    absolutely not lmao

    Us is better than get out

  • Jul 17, 2022

    I agree

  • Jul 17, 2022
    666

    GET KINGOFPOP ON THE PHONE RN !!!

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    slyTendencies

    Regardless of where you stand about MJ, at the very least you have to admit the sleepovers with kids in his bed was weirdo s***.

    His bedroom was very big and he slept somewhere else while the kids were alone in bed always.

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    KingOfPop

    The first accusation is documented extortion from the outset. The following accusations all use that and Victor Gutierrez bullshit reporting as a blueprint

    MJ was wise enough in 03 to not share a bed with the Arvizo’s but Janet was a historic grifter who grifted JC Penney and tried to get many celebs including Jay Leno and Chris Tucker. MJ was an easy target & played into their hands with his naivety and kindness

    Martin Bashir is such a slimeball too

  • Jul 17, 2022
    rise zero

    Would you let MJ babysit your kid?

    Would you let anyone but your parents babysit your kid?

  • Jul 17, 2022
    rastafire

    kingofpop itt

    Dog

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    PIMP

    They had that man on fed surveillance for like 10 years and didn't find nothing

    Only that should tell you

    Ppl always bring this up disingenuously, and make it sound like he was being surveillanced for 10 years consecutively.

    MJ only got surveillanced 2 or 3 separate times; and those 2-3 times happened in the span of 10 years.

    I'm not necessarily arguing he did or didn't do it. But someone with as much money as MJ could easier cover up whatever he needed to hide before hand

  • rastafire

    kingofpop itt

  • Jul 17, 2022
    the reds

    I think there's a good chance he was a pedophile

    Heresy.

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    AshTheRobot

    Ppl always bring this up disingenuously, and make it sound like he was being surveillanced for 10 years consecutively.

    MJ only got surveillanced 2 or 3 separate times; and those 2-3 times happened in the span of 10 years.

    I'm not necessarily arguing he did or didn't do it. But someone with as much money as MJ could easier cover up whatever he needed to hide before hand

    There were multiple claims made that were physically impossible to have covered up.

    It’s true, it wasn’t a consistent 10 year surveillance but there were over 60 organisations and multiple jurisdictions broken in order to snag evidence.. and none of it existed

    MJ was shooting a video while given the news NL was raided in 03. He had no idea it was happening - which is the whole point of a raid anyway

  • Jul 17, 2022
    SEGA GOON

    Martin Bashir is such a slimeball too

    Brave enough to lie to Jackson’s face and make documentaries (2 total I believe) yet when he was put on the stand and couldn’t lie hid behind the shield law and refused to answer anything. Coward.

    The karma train got his ass in the end

  • Jul 17, 2022
    Water Giver

    This s*** was not normal in the 80s and 90s wtf are you talking about & why do you think people had an issue with it back then lmao. A lot of child laws were started IN THE 80s because of all the wild s*** in the 50s to then happening & parents not having any way to keep their children watched or cared for due to limited technology & the work they had to always do.

    Also the 80s n 70s had way higher cases of cults, church & boarding school abuse so if you think thats the golden era for children even tho people say different & the reports, then ok 💀💀

    did i ever say it was normal :) no, shut ur b**** ass can’t read ass up. i’m talking about how sensibilities being wildly different from then and now contribute to how difficult this topic is to discuss. if u don’t get it idc cus u already shown u ass.

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    Made phenomenal music and was an incredible businessman

    but he still gave his accusers $20M

    Now lets say a woman accused Kanye of rape and he went on to give her $20M how would we paint him guilty or not? Who does that? Give somebody set out to destroy you with lies $20,000,000?

  • Jul 17, 2022
    rastafire

    kingofpop itt

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    KILLA CAM 300

    Made phenomenal music and was an incredible businessman

    but he still gave his accusers $20M

    Now lets say a woman accused Kanye of rape and he went on to give her $20M how would we paint him guilty or not? Who does that? Give somebody set out to destroy you with lies $20,000,000?

    how would we paint sm1 who believes the world's biggest popstar is out there raping children, including their own, but can look past it for a cool 20 mil 😎

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    Only a guilty person giving somebody accusing them of that $20M

    I said it idgaf how ya feel anymore

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    it's the same question you're trying to raise about michael, just from the accuser's pov. it's actually the easiest thing to understand cus you wrote the prompt for it, but thas ok

  • Jul 17, 2022
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    frenchpress

    how would we paint sm1 who believes the world's biggest popstar is out there raping children, including their own, but can look past it for a cool 20 mil 😎

    Idc about chandlers dad we talking about Mike

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