A lot of black nationalism gets curtailed into advocating for essentially a bigger piece of the capitalist pie (black owned businesses, black capitalism) not to mention a lot of the celebs unfortunately help legitimize these factors too or just openly support the DNC as a means to end itself.

maybe u just built different lol

cant expect everyone 2 be batman

then i obv agree, my issue was just the other sort of undercurrent running through this thread that if you don’t singlehandedly help a stranger that’s in a volatile situation, (as in direct confrontation or whatever flowery superhero s***) you’re b**** made

i don’t agree with that s***, people are nuts

It’s not about being a superhero

None of us are saying realistically we gon do anything when the fists are already being blown I’m saying PREVENTATIVE.

BEFORE s*** goes left.

BEFORE niggas reach/leave the club for the gun.

BEFORE niggas make physical contact with a woman/man.

Cause this aint even about “white knighting” for me it’s as simple as bro why we doing this and risking bringing the cops here? Nobody (including brother man when he aint in his mentally ill ass anger’d state) wants to f*** up a rather peaceful situation and get 12 involved.

And once again, I am 5’4. A lot of yall men don’t have an excuse lmao.

Key word: before

no protest from me there

foresight and conflict resolution skills are not something everyone has, especially not to the degree it would take to deal w this s***.

Yes we (black people) do bruh lol.

We literally have to so I’m not really hearing the excuses you saying about why multiple niggas couldnt have stepped in before bro even motioned to pick up a brick lmao

Niggas came itt and said

I remember this video. Bro got blasted. Sad situation

it's always the anime niggas man

I think both men and women (at least in the West), for various reasons, have become less traditional in the sense of adhering to their traditional 'gender roles' and the duties that come with those roles, such as men protecting women. I understand not wanting to risk your life to protect a random chick (even though it may be an honourable and self-less act, it is easier said than done to choose that course of action when considering the risks), but at least, in this specific scenario - if you see a man pick up a BRICK against ANYONE, ESPECIALLY A WOMAN and there's a group of other MEN around and not ONE or several of them intervene? That's just insanely low.

ur arguing w/ a eurocac btw

idek why you entertained it

i don’t think this is necessarily reflective of the traditional gender role breakdown per se, but more of the bystander effect tbh

i don’t think men are collectively resting on their laurels and plotting to simply not protect women or whatever anymore, maybe what you said could be it or a part of it though

A group of 5-7 dudes terrified of one emotional nigga. So much so that they couldn't even get the bouncer/club security to get buddy to cool it before he even looked around for a brick.

But I get it. Can't snitch on some random nigga you possibly never even met before and have zero affiliation with. Then you'll just be a sorry, pathetic, and sniveling whiteknight.

whatever bruh be mad at everyone then i cant stop u

That's a valid point for sure, and I think the traditional gender role of a man + the bystander effect are relevant in this scenario. Surely the bystander effect is part of the equation, but I believe that if there was a stronger sense of duty to the traditional, masculine role to protect a woman, that sense of duty would rise "above" the bystander effect, so that the men with that stronger sense of duty would "snap out" of the bystander effect and intervene.

There's occasions where we all could've simply been bystanders in various situations, but where some of us, due to a stronger sense of duty, "snap out" of the bystander role and end up being the ones intervening.

One example would be if we see a child in danger. We would feel a stronger sense of duty to intervene. In the same sense, I believe that men who are more traditional in terms of adhering to their traditional gender roles would feel a stronger sense of duty when it comes to intervening and protecting women in need as well.

If it were my mother, sister, or daughter out there being subjected to attempted murder, I would hope that someone around would have enough empathy to do something.

I understand that not everyone can handle confrontation, not everyone is capable or willing to throw themselves into something potentially dangerous (stranger or not), but being a bystander is not something to be proud or to be applauded, imo.

Everybody needs more empathy.

In Germany we got a law that I think is quite good imo

Only help if you are able to and 100% sure there wont be unexpected danger for you

If she was grabbed, slapped or verbally threatened the men around her shouldve intervened. A brick is a weapon in this case tho there is no point playing the hero and potentially getting hospitalized or killed for a stranger

Fax.

I have high testosterone count

emotional investment fam

there are women in my life who i’d risk my own life for. but i’m not risking my life for a random one

As a citizen, you’re only obligated to call the police. Please don’t let anyone bully or shame you into being a crash test dummy for a stranger.

yep. i got into this situation w my neighbors about a year ago. pretty sure i made a thread about it at the time

mans was wilding and beating his girl, i saw from my window and wanted to intervene but knew it would be so much safer if i called 12 so that’s what i did. don’t know if it really did anything tho