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    Fergies "verse" is like a few bars and i dont get whats bad with it lol.

    Monster should have been replaces with a cut down Lord Lord Lord (the minute and a half of Charlie just going) or a better quality render of Dont Look Down tho - they both should actually be on there and leave Monster as a GOOD Fridays track. They fit the sound of the album way better and when slotted in they imo make the album feel really complete.

    And I agree the outro of RZA on So Appalled is grating especially after the first few listen. Should have been cut down and then have the final as an extended version somewhere else.

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    Vibe

    Illmatic isn't at this level of production, it's a 90s rap album

    Nas doesn't have an album at this level in his discography

    "it's a 90s rap album"

    What is that supposed to mean :samunimpressed:

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    WRU

    New user makes thread

    Old user has small attention span and does read thread to find out this an old user

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    i have such a love hate relationship with MBDTF. i remember when it dropped i was extremely disappointed cus it was different than what i expected.

    it grew on me over the years and there’s a lot of ye’s best moments on it lyrically and production wise (So appalled, Gorgeous, Blame game)

    i also respect how it straddles the line of accessible but still weird af at the same time.

    there’s still some duds on it tho. Runaway is mid and im dying on this hill. Hell of a life is unnecessary and lost in the world only tolerable cus it transitions into the fire gil scott heron outro

    TLDR: It’s some great moments on it but prolly not even top 5 in kanye discography if we goin track for track

  • Sep 9, 2023
    Noir

    "it's a 90s rap album"

    What is that supposed to mean :samunimpressed:

    Illmatic isn't maximalist like MBDTF. It's sample based like most albums of the era. To compare it doesn't even make sense

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    IamStillHealthy

    Old user has small attention span and does read thread to find out this an old user

    I read op I’m above engaging with it

  • Vibe

    Post your favorite MBDTF song

    Blame game

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    Water Giver

    Fergies "verse" is like a few bars and i dont get whats bad with it lol.

    Monster should have been replaces with a cut down Lord Lord Lord (the minute and a half of Charlie just going) or a better quality render of Dont Look Down tho - they both should actually be on there and leave Monster as a GOOD Fridays track. They fit the sound of the album way better and when slotted in they imo make the album feel really complete.

    And I agree the outro of RZA on So Appalled is grating especially after the first few listen. Should have been cut down and then have the final as an extended version somewhere else.

    Anyways LR & Yeezus better

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    splice

    i have such a love hate relationship with MBDTF. i remember when it dropped i was extremely disappointed cus it was different than what i expected.

    it grew on me over the years and there’s a lot of ye’s best moments on it lyrically and production wise (So appalled, Gorgeous, Blame game)

    i also respect how it straddles the line of accessible but still weird af at the same time.

    there’s still some duds on it tho. Runaway is mid and im dying on this hill. Hell of a life is unnecessary and lost in the world only tolerable cus it transitions into the fire gil scott heron outro

    TLDR: It’s some great moments on it but prolly not even top 5 in kanye discography if we goin track for track

    It's definitely top 5 man you're crazy

    his last albums were donda jesus is king ye and tlop

  • Sep 9, 2023
    WRU

    I read op I’m above engaging with it

    You clearly aren't lol

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    splice

    i have such a love hate relationship with MBDTF. i remember when it dropped i was extremely disappointed cus it was different than what i expected.

    it grew on me over the years and there’s a lot of ye’s best moments on it lyrically and production wise (So appalled, Gorgeous, Blame game)

    i also respect how it straddles the line of accessible but still weird af at the same time.

    there’s still some duds on it tho. Runaway is mid and im dying on this hill. Hell of a life is unnecessary and lost in the world only tolerable cus it transitions into the fire gil scott heron outro

    TLDR: It’s some great moments on it but prolly not even top 5 in kanye discography if we goin track for track

    Mid might be the worst/laziest word to describe Runaway

    Nothing mid about it

  • Sep 9, 2023

    I just had the strongest mood swing so I'll be back later

  • Sep 9, 2023
    jynth


    @IamStillHealthy
    Member since 2023

  • Sep 9, 2023
    splice

    i have such a love hate relationship with MBDTF. i remember when it dropped i was extremely disappointed cus it was different than what i expected.

    it grew on me over the years and there’s a lot of ye’s best moments on it lyrically and production wise (So appalled, Gorgeous, Blame game)

    i also respect how it straddles the line of accessible but still weird af at the same time.

    there’s still some duds on it tho. Runaway is mid and im dying on this hill. Hell of a life is unnecessary and lost in the world only tolerable cus it transitions into the fire gil scott heron outro

    TLDR: It’s some great moments on it but prolly not even top 5 in kanye discography if we goin track for track

    Hell of a Life is top 3 on the album & its a major theme of the album lol nothing unnecessary about it outside of personal taste

    Its one of the most thematic on there along with Blame Game & Runaway

  • Sep 9, 2023
    Water Giver

    Fergies "verse" is like a few bars and i dont get whats bad with it lol.

    Monster should have been replaces with a cut down Lord Lord Lord (the minute and a half of Charlie just going) or a better quality render of Dont Look Down tho - they both should actually be on there and leave Monster as a GOOD Fridays track. They fit the sound of the album way better and when slotted in they imo make the album feel really complete.

    And I agree the outro of RZA on So Appalled is grating especially after the first few listen. Should have been cut down and then have the final as an extended version somewhere else.

    I like that your engaging with the tracking your own way

  • Sep 9, 2023

    Ban OP

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    Ban @OP

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    NobodyWins

    Ban @OP

    Caveman mentality

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    IamStillHealthy

    Caveman mentality

    You’ll get over it

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    Ktt is the only place that moans about the Fergie verse, and the Jay Z verse on Monster is not bad. Y'all just convinced yourselves that it is for some bizarre reason.

    That being said, MBDTF is not even the best Kanye album. There's a reason that Graduation and 808s are more influential.

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    NobodyWins

    You’ll get over it

    Talk about the music or get out

  • Sep 9, 2023
    IamStillHealthy

    Talk about the music or get out

    Ban @op while playing MBDTF

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Ktt is the only place that moans about the Fergie verse, and the Jay Z verse on Monster is not bad. Y'all just convinced yourselves that it is for some bizarre reason.

    That being said, MBDTF is not even the best Kanye album. There's a reason that Graduation and 808s are more influential.

    It's almost like the thread title is correct

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    Vibe

    It's definitely top 5 man you're crazy

    his last albums were donda jesus is king ye and tlop

    Id put CD, LR, Grad, 808s, and yeezus over it

  • Sep 9, 2023
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    splice

    Id put CD, LR, Grad, 808s, and yeezus over it

    You're listening to Yeezus for production then because if you listen to Guilt Trip I guarantee you couldn't tell me what he was saying in the first 45 seconds

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