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  • BLACK
    Dec 27, 2021

    the feminism wasn't bad at all. Trinity was such a big part of the first 3 and Bugs was really likeable

  • BLACK
    Dec 27, 2021
    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Ppl in the other thread were saying it’s like a “real cinema” movie not a blockbuster movie so it has me interested

    the first 3 are a experience for sure

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    deleteduser2863

    I find it so weird the amount of vitriol that comes out of the haters for this movie.

    Is it because Lana is trans? Is it the feminism with Trinity & Bugs? Is it the meta-commentary on fans?

    So weird

    I don't think any of this would have mattered to anybody on ktt if for instance Neo wasn't spamming force push for the entire finale (and other clear dips in quality). People can spin it however they want but it just smacks of low effort to me.

    The execution just could have been dramatically better

  • Dec 27, 2021
    Elric

    Yes I was tripping but Jada's face looked like a deepfake to me

    Man, they had her out here looking like Estelle Hemsley as Old Malla in The Leech Woman.


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    Elric

    I don't think any of this would have mattered to anybody on ktt if for instance Neo wasn't spamming force push for the entire finale (and other clear dips in quality). People can spin it however they want but it just smacks of low effort to me.

    The execution just could have been dramatically better

    what if i told you that outside forces can effect execution, forces besides being “low-effort”

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    Mark Moschino

    what if i told you that outside forces can effect execution, forces besides being “low-effort”

    then thats unfortunate? i dont see anybody with their pitchforks out for Lana specifically

  • Dec 27, 2021
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    Bane

    I unironically kept acting like Neo during middle school

    this my favorite post in the whole thread

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    Elric

    then thats unfortunate? i dont see anybody with their pitchforks out for Lana specifically

    people saying lana is going for a cash grab itt would beg to differ

  • Dec 27, 2021
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    Mark Moschino

    people saying lana is going for a cash grab itt would beg to differ

    more likely felt like she needed to take the matrix back from all the magats or whatever

    sorry if i cant keep up with 80 pages a day of banter itt

  • Dec 27, 2021
    Elric

    more likely felt like she needed to take the matrix back from all the magats or whatever

    sorry if i cant keep up with 80 pages a day of banter itt

    lmao i was being a little aggressive mb, there’s a great lecture she gave on her motivations and @ShintaroKago knows a lot about it but it’s basically a product of grief over the loss of her parents

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    yeah i feel lana made movie to take back franchise from warner bros and sabotage it from being profitable without her and lily
    but still made cool movie same time

  • Dec 27, 2021

    definitely some level of taking back ownership of the series

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    it’s a good lesson to learn tho people can misinterpret media to fit anything they’re going through

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    Mark Moschino

    it’s a good lesson to learn tho people can misinterpret media to fit anything they’re going through

    Misinterpret might be the wrong word

    A lot of filmmakers aren't making films that are that easy to pin down and get annoyed when anybody tries to proclaim it's about any one thing

  • Dec 27, 2021

    Tbh this movie's biggest sin was only having Christina Ricci for one scene or whatever

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    Elric

    Misinterpret might be the wrong word

    A lot of filmmakers aren't making films that are that easy to pin down and get annoyed when anybody tries to proclaim it's about any one thing

    that’s valid i’m using misinterpret very broadly because we’re speaking in the context of a series about being trans and finding the power of love who's imagery is co-opted by q-anon folks

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    Elric

    Misinterpret might be the wrong word

    A lot of filmmakers aren't making films that are that easy to pin down and get annoyed when anybody tries to proclaim it's about any one thing

    Why should film makers like jordan peele or Darren arfonsky have to give “ this is the correct answer class “

  • Dec 27, 2021
    HaroldsChicken

    Why should film makers like jordan peele or Darren arfonsky have to give “ this is the correct answer class “

    Ask any artist to explain their artwork and they will legit never look at you again

  • Dec 27, 2021
    HaroldsChicken

    Why should film makers like jordan peele or Darren arfonsky have to give “ this is the correct answer class “

    People like things spelled out i guess I prefer it when things retain some mystique and ambiguity

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    Mark Moschino

    that’s valid i’m using misinterpret very broadly because we’re speaking in the context of a series about being trans and finding the power of love who's imagery is co-opted by q-anon folks

    Ok true f*** those guys. Lana should've made this even gayer to piss them off even more tbh. I can imagine how fabulous-Morpheus is going down

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    That Wake Up cover was awful

  • Dec 27, 2021
    Mac Foley

    That Wake Up cover was awful

    Yes

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    Elric

    Ok true f*** those guys. Lana should've made this even gayer to piss them off even more tbh. I can imagine how fabulous-Morpheus is going down

    no shade it just is what it is you know?

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    Mac Foley

    That Wake Up cover was awful

    Sang by ol girl who peed on that dude at a concert