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https://twitter.com/Adult_humorr/status/2083975594744947072tweet is dumb but generally theres enough people into this movie genre/subject matter that there will be tweets like this same as dumb rap tweets regardless of the merit of the comparison
i kinda hate the money talk at times
Doesnt mean they cant do it in the next one
They can but it won’t hit the same. Hopefully they save that for Raimi’s 4th if they ever do that
he is a main villain in spider man lore. Characters that we will never see in a spider man movie ever again got 10x the time
He served his purpose in this lol. Again what else would he have contributed to this movie? Nothing. It was fine. I get wanting him in maybe another movie but he didn’t need any other scenes in this specific movie.
He served his purpose in this lol. Again what else would he have contributed to this movie? Nothing. It was fine. I get wanting him in maybe another movie but he didn’t need any other scenes in this specific movie.
I think this movie while good had too much time on non spider man related characters that we will never see him interact with again in his solo movies.
he is a main villain in spider man lore. Characters that we will never see in a spider man movie ever again got 10x the time
@NobodyWins you guys are kinda talking past each other yes thats how they were functionally used but @ShintaroKago just seems to want a more grounded story or at least to not sideline these characters and consequentially reduce their ability to be used in movies substantially going forward
i thought they illlustrated the point well but i hope we see some of those villains again, however seems unlikely with the scope and scale they are going for. like in a movie ok i could see scorpion, tombstone is a bit too small where as kingpin could be cool because there is more meat on the story and character.
@NobodyWins you guys are kinda talking past each other yes thats how they were functionally used but @ShintaroKago just seems to want a more grounded story or at least to not sideline these characters and consequentially reduce their ability to be used in movies substantially going forward
i thought they illlustrated the point well but i hope we see some of those villains again, however seems unlikely with the scope and scale they are going for. like in a movie ok i could see scorpion, tombstone is a bit too small where as kingpin could be cool because there is more meat on the story and character.
Yeah but my point is he didn’t need more time in this movie. I said I get wanting more of him in something else like his own movie. I just don’t get the complaints that in this we needed more of him when he wouldn’t have added to the story they wanted to tell.
@NobodyWins you guys are kinda talking past each other yes thats how they were functionally used but @ShintaroKago just seems to want a more grounded story or at least to not sideline these characters and consequentially reduce their ability to be used in movies substantially going forward
i thought they illlustrated the point well but i hope we see some of those villains again, however seems unlikely with the scope and scale they are going for. like in a movie ok i could see scorpion, tombstone is a bit too small where as kingpin could be cool because there is more meat on the story and character.
You get it. Sadie Sink character gets a lot of time in this movie and the writing of her is very last minute to never see the character again within a solo movie. That is all. Punisher cool crossover. S*** give us Kingpin . Liked the overall message but looking back at what theyve built of specifically spider man world of reoccuring characters its very flimsy
Yeah but my point is he didn’t need more time in this movie. I said I get wanting more of him in something else like his own movie. I just don’t get the complaints that in this we needed more of him when he wouldn’t have added to the story they wanted to tell.
this is in many ways a better x men introduction movie than a spider man movie
They can but it won’t hit the same. Hopefully they save that for Raimi’s 4th if they ever do that
I rather they do spidergirl for raimi
Yeah but my point is he didn’t need more time in this movie. I said I get wanting more of him in something else like his own movie. I just don’t get the complaints that in this we needed more of him when he wouldn’t have added to the story they wanted to tell.
i think he just doesnt like how much they were reduced on their introduction to being defeated which likely closes their chapter of appearing in the films with any sort of substance. but kinda makes sense with scale of movie they are going for, and as you describe in this movie kinda makes sense as a montage but maybe the execution left some feeling a bit off. but idk
this is in many ways a better x men introduction movie than a spider man movie
I disagree but I can see why you think that. She isn’t my first choice for Spider-Man movie villains but I didn’t mind it.
i think he just doesnt like how much they were reduced on their introduction to being defeated which likely closes their chapter of appearing in the films with any sort of substance. but kinda makes sense with scale of movie they are going for, and as you describe in this movie kinda makes sense as a montage but maybe the execution left some feeling a bit off. but idk
Speed running Spider Man facing many villains and saying the crime rate at record lows then spending the amount of time they do on other things later in the movies. I think its still a solid spider man movie better than the home trilogy but the writing of the Jean parts of seeing one old memory with her sister. Only seeing her sister alive for that one scene. her sister supposed to be older than her has better grasp of powers knows they are likely being tracked and just conveniently gets ice cream alone then forces jean to not get kidnapped with her. ehhhh . Scorpion having no real plot point of any kind of his own mind . Hulk getting a quick storyline. No way home none of them being his universes villains. So Scorpion, Mysterio dead, vulture who may be in morbius reality. Is all we have from 4 films lol. Jean gets a hour of this movie . No oscorp is kind of insane
I would have been fine with this movie having less MJ and Ned saving that full reunion for next movie while giving them their own separate plots we see in this movie .
having jean threaten and control MJ after thinking man I thought we were going to get one movie without MJ being saved by Spider Man. Is like okay . Especially since Jean could have just controlled MJ and not told him instead said "lets race to her " then threw her off a building. William Metzger while "evil" there is a reason for doing what he is doing to her sister he not just doing it to be f\*\*\*ed up. Again I am on the side jean could have told Peter they have her sister captured sooner and MAYBE THEN HER SISTER WOULD STILL BE ALIVE RATHER THAN JERKING AROUND THE ENTIRE MOVIE ACTING LIKE SPIDER MAN EVIL AND WOULDNT HEAR HER OUT
Yeah but my point is he didn’t need more time in this movie. I said I get wanting more of him in something else like his own movie. I just don’t get the complaints that in this we needed more of him when he wouldn’t have added to the story they wanted to tell.
im basically in agreement with you just sounds like he kinda wanted a differently executed flick.
im basically in agreement with you just sounds like he kinda wanted a differently executed flick.
the Jean parts could be executed better. Still a very good spider man film overall. But knowing Jean will never be in a spider man movie again. MJ and Ned cool they know spider man again. No other spider man focused villains or businesses introduced. How much did this movie accomplish for specifically spider mans new york? Besides they all love spider man again but from the beginning of the movie everyone loved him too
so much occurred but that specifically has bearing on spider man new york is very little .
I’m saying, Holland looked INSANE in this movie.
He looked more ripped than he needed to be . They had his ass working out for real
He looked more ripped than he needed to be . They had his ass working out for real
I’m assuming they did it to better distinguish himself from the previous trilogy and look more like an adult Spider-Man.
Hearing this has egregious talk- no jutsu. Super unfortunate
In other words, true to his character
Can’t wait to see it again this weekend. Really is the best cbm we will get this year wow.
Which is part of the central issue. Especially when they have all this time on the clock where they could develop Ned, MJ, oscorp, have jobs, develop and set up future villains their origin. The world building in these movies is utter dogshit. If the world building of specifically spider man new york was better I could forgive them for all the time spent on MCU world building but its really not. It doesnt feel like that much of a living breathing world. Every single human that he interacts with feels like a npc from the games.
I dont mean to police you about semantics but I think public threat is more appropriate than villain for Jean
Ideally, she’d have Spider-Man to vouch for her and explain what happened which could rehabilitate her image into a misunderstood albeit still polarizing figure
You know. You're not wrong. None of these spidey movies have had enough time or actually made useful time to develop the spidey world outside of Peter. Especially compared to the Raimi trilogy
Not true. Homecoming has a great section with Spidey interacting with the people of NY he’s even close with the local deli shops cat

Speed running Spider Man facing many villains and saying the crime rate at record lows then spending the amount of time they do on other things later in the movies. I think its still a solid spider man movie better than the home trilogy but the writing of the Jean parts of seeing one old memory with her sister. Only seeing her sister alive for that one scene. her sister supposed to be older than her has better grasp of powers knows they are likely being tracked and just conveniently gets ice cream alone then forces jean to not get kidnapped with her. ehhhh . Scorpion having no real plot point of any kind of his own mind . Hulk getting a quick storyline. No way home none of them being his universes villains. So Scorpion, Mysterio dead, vulture who may be in morbius reality. Is all we have from 4 films lol. Jean gets a hour of this movie . No oscorp is kind of insane
A few years back, I thought for sure that the Thunderbolts being introduced to MCU wouldve led to a President Osborne story. Holland Spiderman vs OG Goblin was hype, and it did bring us here to Brand New Day but I really would like to see an MCU Green Goblin, or Hobgoblin/Demogoblin at least
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Not a fan of this cut