Its not irrelevant but ITS F***ING SUPERMAN MAN

you acting like Jesus mid cause he aint drop a good book in a minute

I don’t wanna hear s*** about the movies’ quality being the reason it can’t sell. All the Fast and Furious movies make a ridiculous amount of money.

The most famous hero in the world can’t get over $700 million because of a bad film? Please be serious

Superman is still a Top 10 most popular hero, he’s just not THE NUMBER ONE most popular like he was 20/30 years ago

like I really need a reason from them because that s*** is non sensical

Box office like billboard is relevant

But when Drake passes up MJ will drake truly be more known worldwide than MJ?

like lets bring it relevant to the topic

barbie made a billi
Mario made a billi

are they infinitely better and well known than so many movies that didn't cross that number?

numbers dont take into account culture, time frame, life circumstances

merch and so many other factors man

Superman is timeless

iron man 2 and 3 weren't even good enough for you to be doing all this

yes he was loved in the event movies but 2 of his 3 solo movies were mid

Ok let me ask you, what do you think of the performance of Iron man related projects outside of the live action movies

As a teacher who sees over 400 kids a week that's actually not true at all. There's characters you can make that argument with but joker isn't one of em

I agree with you on some things man but bad films due hurt box office..

Regardless of you how personally felt about these movies MOS and BVS being so divisie scared people away from Justice League and that basically led to the slow death of the whole franchise.

BVS almost made a billi based off the concept of Batman and Superman fighting each other alone but poor WOM stopped that from happening

Audiences were burned before and didn't want to spend their money on a product they didn't like

It’s incredible how completely far off this a***ogy is to what I am saying, truly incredible you managed to think this and type this out

if what he was saying was true we would have A LOT MORE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS and I am not even jokng

Superman hasn’t had a good selling movie since 1980 dawg, cut the excuses

lets see if he can name one

yeah you like 21

like nah this KTT this not daycare fammo

when @SUPERMAN and I started having the discussions we are having today was like 10 years ago

You were 13

i brought this up last night and when I did I got told that Superman media does better because of brand recognition

We literally posted statistics and google results and he wrote it off lmao

I don't feel like arguing with bro cuz he's cool people tho

Kang was a punching bag there was next to no hype for him after he got sonned yet again by antman and his ants of all ppl

i used to work in a retail store that sold all types of superhero merch, clothing etc from both DC and MARVEL and tbh no one was buying superman merch…

i can say however without a doubt that spiderman is arguably the most popular hero in this era

That explains why you still think Superman is the most loved hero, because you’re a middle aged man

The Superman 2025 tee legit just sold out if we doing the merchandise argument

Superman is the coolest s*** to white men over 35, other audiences and demographics don’t give a f*** about that nigga in the same way

Bro when y'all do these personal attacks on each other the s*** just hurts the debate and argument cuz it just come off as nonsensical lol

like we all just talkin about comic book movies at the end of the day