the talk at the time was the manager was a big fan and wanted him in but the club vetoed it

wanna take a guess who was making the football related decisions for man utd at the time?

Yeah absolutely. I don't disagree.

Would much rather we take a shot at developing some young relatively under the radar players and properly bed in some of our youth around that.

Rabiot and Arnautovic are stop gaps. We've played this stop gap game far too many times. It's a cycle that has to broken at some point by either signing a player of De Jong's talent or developing a younger player into being that. But, let's see what contract they both get. Rabiot is an improvement no doubt. And Arnautovic is backup at the end of the day.

No idea where you got that idea from of the club vetoing it. You can just Google 'Mane Man Utd' and you can see a quote from Mane himself saying he turned us down for Liverpool because Klopp and that project was more enticing.

Nothing else we could have done.

Here, you just made that completely up about the club vetoing it.

point is the club never takes the initiative to try to win over these players when it comes down to it

can you think of the last time we won a transfer battle with another cl club?

Mane’s quotes from the mirror about klopp convincing him refer to the summer of 2016

I’m talking about a whole year prior when LVG was asking for him before liverpool were even in the picture

I don't know what to tell you about 2015. You've provided a solitary quote that seemingly we were interested and had at least made contact with Southampton. It probably just proved unfeasible that summer given that he had only joined the year prior and was their record signing. We were in for him in summer 2016, the year that he was actually on the market.

What exactly does 'winning them over' look like to you. We were in these deals to the very last second. Why are you surprised that Mane had his head turned by Klopp. Or that 16 year old Bellingham decided he would go with Dortmund.

We've been s*** for 10 years. Barely made a dent in the CL. What transfer battle are you expecting us to win against a CL club.

Think about how much had been spent on signings that should have been very solid that managers just wasted. There's no excuse for Schneiderlen's time here being as insignificant as it was. Same goes for Mikhitaryan. Damian. Depay. Blind.

Those were all very promising signings that none of us batted an eye at at the time. S*** managers and their s*** coaching styles meant they all failed.

Y'all got my condolences if you're actually signing Rabiot & Arnautovic.

There definitely was managers that would have been able to do plenty in the time he was given. Including himself if he had the hindsight he does now.

And again, what are you expecting. Bale picked Madrid over us cause it's Madrid. Fabregas was gonna leave Barca if they didn't have him starting in the opening game of the season. They did and he stayed.

Neither can be pinned as failings of the club at large.

Moyes signed a six year deal

And it only took him one of those years to take us from first to seventh.

You trying to tell me no other manager in existence could have fared better than seventh that season?

Me and you constantly seem to have these banal debates where you just keep tossing out a myriad of ill-thought-out and tangential arguments that are swatted down in seconds. But you just keep throwing them out nonetheless. It's like whack a mole.

You do at least always win in the end though cause I just get too exhausted and bored to reply.

I think a manager’s approach is different when he believes he’s going to be at a club long term and is supported in the transfer market

Dream team 😍😍

All those players made the right choice. 7 champions titles among themselves.

I have a feeling we could’ve brought anyone in in the last 10 years and they all would’ve flopped

Is there literally 1 signing since SAF that has actually been great for more than 1 season?

Exactly, united just isn't a conducive environment for players.

So f***ing s***

Every day is a nightmare

so much club revenue wasted

The way out of the abyss is through the youth team, it's the only reason Arsenal have any hope. I get we were all stung by the rapist, and the likes of McTominay have never materialised, but you have to keep trying.
Much rather lose with any of these young guys than w̶i̶n̶ also lose with Arnautovic and whoever