The thing is don’t think he will the signings ole made this summer are ole signings and conte will not be given the resources that he likes. Are squad will be too imbalanced to the likes of liverpool Chelsea and city imo

Conte doesn’t sign Ronaldo imo (for better or worse) and probably someone more premier league proven than sancho ( he will be fine btw)

Zidane would be interesting tbh

I think he’s the one that would fit in immediately with the current squad. As you say with Conte he would want his own players and a complete change to suit his system. Which our board won’t do. But in all honesty I would love to see it. I think our board and players need a kick up the arse. And my man Conte would deliver on all fronts

I agree with the sentiment but Jose was trying the same thing (Contes better at it currently mind you) owners just need to gtfo which is more important than ole leaving

I definitely agree with this, but at the same time, Conte does make do with what he has. He implemented the 424 and 4312 a lot at Juventus and his stint as Italian coach. It’s not 3 at the back or bust.

I see Ole personified in his midfield McFred. In the same way they’re a midfield with some decent traits, they have fundamental flaws that mean they’ll never be title winning quality. Ole is their equivalent as a manager.

Conte, Zidane, Ten Hag, hell even Potter could do a job with this squad

We are ass, haven't even challenged for a title since I was in highschool. Can't even break low blocks for the past 8 years. Every manager that has come hasn't even successfully implemented a specific style.

Zidane is only viable replacement. Nobody will come play for conte nor will anyone watch that bore fest and ten Haag hasn’t even done anything winning leagues with Ajax ole could do that.

CR7, Sancho, and Varane came to play for Ole but no one would come for Conte? idk about that one fam United's pull is massive irrespective of the coach.

Zidane would be my top choice as well but I don't think he'll want to come and tbf Ten Hag also had that crazy run in the UCL. At least he can impose an actual style of play on a team as opposed to whatever we're doing now.

Would prefer Zidane to Conte.

But big disagree on the Ten Hag disrespect. The guy is a fantastic manager and I have no doubt he will be succesful wherever he goes to next. He has everywhere he's been. Got promotion with Go Ahead Eagles in his first season there. Their first promotion in almost 2 decades. Worked with Pep at Bayern and got their second team promoted. Overhauled Utrecht and got them to 4th and a cup final after years in mid table. Won the league with Ajax after a few years of drought. Has well handled all the squad upheaval they've faced over the last couple years. Took them to a champions league semi final. Beat Madrid and Juve to do so. Almost made it to the final.

Easily my number 1 pick.

He wouldn’t ditch Ajax mid season tho if we called tmrw. Like we’re just stuck with ole till 2022 I’m afraid

It’s possible ten Haag will go on to have a successful career, but only if it’s anywhere but here, lol.

The type of style in a manager/player never really works for us.

He seems the type that would end up at a Bayern or City and do well. Can’t see him at a club like ours.

What do you mean exactly by that type of style doesnt work for us? Whats that based off of.

I guess it’s more just a gut feeling rather than empirical evidence.

My thought process is just that the atypical, Ajax Cruijffian way and the infrastructure of our club is not particularly compatible. The teething period for us to go from a side who genuinely play on vibes to a side so tactically drilled is some ask. A manager like Ten Hag would need the right surroundings and I wouldn’t trust those in charge to provide that structural framework. This is the same ownership that tried to sell the role to Klopp by calling the club “adult Disneyland”.

It’s easy to ask the likes of Daley Blind and young kids like Donny and Frenkie to play in triangles and think a certain way when they’re literally indoctrinated in that style as a child, but to ask the same of seasoned vets like Pogba, Ronaldo, and Varane — whilst also maintaining good results and dealing with the pressures of being manager of this gigantic club (Gary Neville will literally have Monday night football exposés on television about penalty misses and s***). It’s some ask. And the fact that historically speaking, the CV of Dutch exports into the premier league doesn’t particularly wash well.

N.B. I’m not disparaging Ten Hag’s at all, I definitely think of all the young promising managers out there he’s certainly up there with the likes of Nagelsman etc. I just don’t think it’s a good fit for either party in this case. As I say, I could see him at a Bayern type club and I’m sure he’d do well where there’s a bit more footballing savvy infrastructure behind him.

Koeman, LVG and De Boer have set Dutch managers back too far for me to fully trust a Dutch manager rn.
Honestly, in the appointment process they have to make sure the next coach has as little in common with Moyes, LVG, Mourinho, Ole and Arteta as possible

United board don’t have the intelligence to hire a guy like Ten Hagg and install his philosophy straight away

In all honesty it’s probably Zidane who’s best suited to this current squad. And I don’t think it’s impossible to get him

Ok if you want good tactical coach with a system… Ten Hagg

If you want short term success straight away, while tightening up the defence .. Conte

If you want someone who’s track record in CL is at elite levels then Zidane… though not a tactical coach, he had the right people around him to install his ideas to Madrid

Apologies if I gassed Poch too much on here, they lost 2-0 today against Rennes

United, Barca, Madrid and PSG are on bozo watch every time they play. If I wasn't a United fan this would be the funniest season ever

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I get where your trepidations are coming from. But I think there's some misconceptions there.

To preface this, I have only seen Ten Hag's Ajax teams. Anything regarding Utrecht I've only read up on.

Ten Hag isn't an inflexible, Ajax only style manager. At Utrecht they chopped and changed from the standard Dutch 4-3-3. He played 5-3-2 and 4-4-2 diamonds. It wasn't always pretty football, it was tailored to the individuals.

Our club at its core has 2 principles, these have not changed:
1) Youth development
2) Entertaining, attacking football

Both of these are elements that Ten Hag is completely aligned with.

His concepts aren't that foreign or groundbreaking in this day and age. They are certainly all elements that our recent managers have at times attempted to implement. And elements that SAF strongly believed in.

• build from the back
• control possession
• wide players stretch the opposition
• fluid front 3
• aggressive press upon losing the ball
• quick, precise, short passes

Our infrastructure has had, and likely continues to have, its flaws. But it does genuinely seem like there's an effort to correct course. The DOF restructuring over the summer, scouting overhaul, facilities improvement. One thing that has always remained a constant is focus on the academy.

And yeah it's easy to say well Ajax players are indoctrinated in that style - but you're overlooking all the crucial players who aren't.

Frenkie De Jong wasn't an Ajax academy kid. They brought him in at 18 (technically 19 cause he was loaned back to Willem initially). Dusan Tadic was in the running for the ballon d'or under him. David Neres joined from Sau Paulo. Tagliafico and Alvarez from Argentina.

Players can and should improve. Their strengths and weaknesses aren't static presets. Professionals will work hard and understand well executed instructions. Especially professionals like Ronaldo and Varane. Pogba is likely gone anyway.

The core of our squad is still young. Players like Shaw, Sancho, Rashford, Bruno are all very capable of quick passing games. We see it on plenty of our attacks down the left wing. Its why I suspect players like Sancho and VDB haven't been successful so far in whatever the hell system we try and play. They're also capable of pressing, we see glimpses of it when we suddenly decide to start playing after conceding. We saw it in Ole's first few months here.

We're failing and will continue to fail because we are not well drilled tactically. Resting on our laurels because 'oh some of these guys might not get it' isn't a good enough reason. I can't wait for that teething period. It's necessary with whoever comes in. I'd rather it be him, having done it each summer Ajax get raided.

With Bayern having gone for Nagelsman, Barca in ruin, we have a very good chance imo at getting him this summer. And should absolutely take it.