DEL_DVYg

2y

Btw what is the reason var is not in carabao cup ?

Grenouille

2y

It’s only used in the semis onwards — it’s to keep uniformity/“fairness”. Most of the clubs in the championship downward don’t have the capacity for VAR so it would be disproportionate if some had VAR and some didn’t

ANTI

2y

I think this post match presser is the first one Amorim’s fumbled.

KingOfPop

2y

How so?

ANTI

2y

I don’t like the optics of, right after being eliminated from a competition, saying trophies don’t fix everything… especially not when you preached before the game the importance of every trophy at a club like Manchester United.

And, while there is overwhelming evidence to support the claim (under ETH we literally got worse each time we won a trophy) at the end of the day, it’s a claim of opinion, not a fact, and it’ll never sit right with me when coaches who have yet to win anything at their current club say that. I scoffed when Ole said it, I have to keep the same energy with Amorim.

Also him saying “I never talk about referees and I’m not going to start now”… not really his fault because he’s still new but he’ll soon learn the standard of refereeing in England is abysmal, and that corruption runs rife throughout the organization. It has to be called out.

KingOfPop

2y

Being 3-0 down in 55 minutes and still thinking we could get something out of this game

Is it Amorim's greatness or Spurs being Spurs lol

KingOfPop

2y

Being 3-0 down in 55 minutes and still thinking we could get something out of this game

Is it Amorim's greatness or Spurs being Spurs lol

Grenouille

2y

It’s only used in the semis onwards — it’s to keep uniformity/“fairness”. Most of the clubs in the championship downward don’t have the capacity for VAR so it would be disproportionate if some had VAR and some didn’t

Grenouille

2y

It’s only used in the semis onwards — it’s to keep uniformity/“fairness”. Most of the clubs in the championship downward don’t have the capacity for VAR so it would be disproportionate if some had VAR and some didn’t

Glitter Boy

2y

Bit of both.

His subs changed the game up, but spurs were shaky defensively for most of the game. We just didn’t really take advantage of it first half.

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2y

Doesn’t make any sense. A game at a lower league ground and a game in a prem stadium in the same round have absolutely nothing to do with each other and have no contingency. So instead of having one of these games be fair with VAR, we decide we have none of them be fair? It’s horrible reasoning by whoever implemented this.

Grenouille

2y

Of course it makes sense. It’s consistency in a competition.

How do you not see that a game between Manchester United vs Spurs with VAR is a fundamentally different game than a game of QPR vs Reading with no VAR?

They’d be in the same competition playing with different rules. How is that fair?

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2y

The fundamental issue is that each individual tie in the League Cup is self-contained, and the availability of VAR in one match does not impact the fairness or integrity of another. The presence of VAR in the Spurs vs United game doesn’t suddenly disadvantage Reading and QPR, who’re playing their match at a venue without the necessary infrastructure. These two fixtures do not influence one another’s outcomes; they’re separate contests entirely.

Insisting that VAR should not be used at Spurs v United just because it can’t be implemented at Loftus Road means intentionally lowering the standard of officiating in one match to achieve a misleading notion of consistency. In other words, it’s a deliberate choice to keep things uniformly less fair, rather than making each match as fair as it can be within its own circumstances. The goal should be to improve the officiating wherever possible, not to ensure that all games are equally disadvantaged by the absence of better tools. Each tie in the competition deserves the highest standard of decision-making that is available to it, regardless of what is or isn’t possible in a different stadium.

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2y

The fundamental issue is that each individual tie in the League Cup is self-contained, and the availability of VAR in one match does not impact the fairness or integrity of another. The presence of VAR in the Spurs vs United game doesn’t suddenly disadvantage Reading and QPR, who’re playing their match at a venue without the necessary infrastructure. These two fixtures do not influence one another’s outcomes; they’re separate contests entirely.

Insisting that VAR should not be used at Spurs v United just because it can’t be implemented at Loftus Road means intentionally lowering the standard of officiating in one match to achieve a misleading notion of consistency. In other words, it’s a deliberate choice to keep things uniformly less fair, rather than making each match as fair as it can be within its own circumstances. The goal should be to improve the officiating wherever possible, not to ensure that all games are equally disadvantaged by the absence of better tools. Each tie in the competition deserves the highest standard of decision-making that is available to it, regardless of what is or isn’t possible in a different stadium.

Undun

2y

Didn’t even read but seeing Mount on the ground was enough for me

hopefully we can ship him off in the summer

Grenouille

2y

I don’t massively have a dog in this fight, if I’m being honest. I do see your logic, I just also see the logic of ensuring as much uniformity where possible. Long term I wouldn’t lose sleep either way.
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I think the wider point is that one of the two domestic cups probably needs abolishing. (And it’s probably the carabao). I think we remain the only major European nation still doing two. Even more so with all the nonsensical additional international congestion.

KingOfPop

2y

Yeah, I really think it’s starting to click.. the rotational players last night weren’t great but as soon as the more frequent starters came on you saw the difference.

Hopefully we see a full strength side on Sunday - I know Ruben needs to figure out who can do what but it must be hard for the players to be rotating so heavily

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2y

The fundamental issue is that each individual tie in the League Cup is self-contained, and the availability of VAR in one match does not impact the fairness or integrity of another. The presence of VAR in the Spurs vs United game doesn’t suddenly disadvantage Reading and QPR, who’re playing their match at a venue without the necessary infrastructure. These two fixtures do not influence one another’s outcomes; they’re separate contests entirely.

Insisting that VAR should not be used at Spurs v United just because it can’t be implemented at Loftus Road means intentionally lowering the standard of officiating in one match to achieve a misleading notion of consistency. In other words, it’s a deliberate choice to keep things uniformly less fair, rather than making each match as fair as it can be within its own circumstances. The goal should be to improve the officiating wherever possible, not to ensure that all games are equally disadvantaged by the absence of better tools. Each tie in the competition deserves the highest standard of decision-making that is available to it, regardless of what is or isn’t possible in a different stadium.