RASIE

5y

He actually described it pretty well. It was gory, especially the end. It had a lot if Italian inspiration. And it was very camp. It also wasn't a screenplay with content mined from Twitter discussions or some uninspired brainlet film by Ari Aster

Mango

5y

You really didn't pick up on the social commentary? At all?

Melz

5y

Last sentence is whack as f*** lol

Ari Aster is a good director

lilkuya

5y

Oh Damb so this was fire after all ?

RASIE

5y

Of course but compared to trash like The Invisible Man and other "elevated horror" nonsense, this was totally fine

RASIE

5y

Probably the worst filmmaker to appear this century

Mango

5y

I mean, not just the females should own their bodies stuff. The movie is almost entirely about ending white patriarchy .

RASIE

5y

Of course but compared to trash like The Invisible Man and other "elevated horror" nonsense, this was totally fine

Melz

5y

Invisible Man was a good movie I’m not rocking with your opinion

Have you even seen the original?

Ava

5y

I feel like it’s important to say if you’re wondering why the acting is “bad” in the opening, that is entirely INTENTIONAL. It’s probably the scene with the most campiness in it, for me it set the tone really well for the rest of the movie but I can see how people would be put off by it and tell themselves they’re watching a bad movie

RASIE

5y

This is your brain on identity politics

HoneyBunny

5y

i haven't seen insidious

1. Saw
2. The Conjuring
3. Malignant
4. The Conjuring 2

HoneyBunny

5y

its one of those movies i've wanted to see for years but im too lazy yanno

austin_butler_fan4

5y

Insidious 2 is so much fun but u need to watch 1 before

I also think insidious 2 > insidious 1

The rest is ass

Mango

5y

There are two white male characters besides the dead police. They are her abusive husband who awakes her evil male twin inside of her. Both are domineering and parasitic and controlling. The villain controls the media (radio) and creates her reality (the visions) and they end up pointing it back at him (the act of filmmaking). Even the white butch girl in the prison starts throwing POC into the shredder as soon as s\*\*\* hits the fan. Meanwhile police are mostly multicultural multigenerational quirky types. There's medical horror in sterilization, there's the obvious abortion allegory, etc. The film is full of social commentary. It's just super underhanded. The villain is a literal yakub.

RASIE

5y

• "Your were my son i never should have abandoned you"

• Person in charge of the controversial
medical experiments from "a different time" is a white woman

A diversity in casting isn't making the whole movie "about ending white male patriarchy", and its not social commentary.

There's definitely a major factor of media criticism and it's influence on our perception of reality, but i dont see why you'd interpret it as "white male patriarchy" rather than just what it is

Mango

5y

White women are also bad. Though it's because white men have infected them. That's what the movie tells us. Hell, white women being sterilized is also pointing it back at the oppressor. A black woman co-wrote this movie. You don't think she's aware of this stuff?

RASIE

5y

The movie does have a lot of "fight back" commentary in it, but why would it be against white male patriarchy instead of, say, kneejerk (arguably masculine) immoral/violent reactions to victimization?

Yes an abusive husband awakens her demons by a last straw hit. She/he then goes on a killing rampage that is objectively framed as bad. And it ends with showing that violent half love instead of hate and its kept at bay instead of killed (like it would kill).

The white woman in charge of the different time experiments isnt infected by white men. In fact, white men are her direct subordinates.

This is indeed a very feminist film, but there's no racial factor beyond diversity in casting (which isn't even a racial factor in and of itself).

Mango

5y

No racial factor? The white inmate literally throws multiple POC to their death in a comic fashion. Do you know how movies are made? The black prisoner is dressed up like a 70s Foxy Brown with bell bottoms and a pendant while the white woman is a butch biker b\*\*\*\*. Even the wardrobe is meticulously assigned to convey meaning. This stuff isn't by accident. You think they accidentally made all the Seattle police POC? You watched them turn the police into quirky multi-cultural multi-generational people and didn't think it was social commentary? That's a you problem.

RASIE

5y

You think a hollywood film script that requires police to be good guys would be caught dead casting white men as the cops given current social events?

If there's a racial factor, why are you mentioning how the white prisoners are dressed? I dont think the costume direction happens by accident lol. But throwing multiple POC to their deaths means nothing when white women were killed in the same scene.

Mango

5y

Wait, so the movie does have racialized social commentary? I thought you said it didn't? And it has social commentary in general? I thought you said it didn't?

RASIE

5y

I never said either of those things. I said it wasnt "entirely about dismantling the white male patriarchy"

Stop scrambling and continue the actual discussion or I'm just going to stop replying

Mango

5y

You've added nothing besides ceding to various points of my own perception of the film. You should watch it again I think before you talk about it.

RASIE

5y

Probably the worst filmmaker to appear this century