Also dude had Dre in his corner even prior to S80
And then a jay remix a few months later, and tour with ye right when GKMC dropped.
Like I get bro point kendrick was bigger at the start but he didn't have as many barriers at the start, lupe was gonna get to that GKMC/ TPAB if his career was handled right
And then a jay remix a few months later, and tour with ye right when GKMC dropped.
Like I get bro point kendrick was bigger at the start but he didn't have as many barriers at the start, lupe was gonna get to that GKMC/ TPAB if his career was handled right
Exactly, even then with like F&L we can’t forget that it was in works for a long time and completed even before he signed to Atlantic. Explains why The Cool came shortly after
Idk if that information is relevant to this argument lol
Nah I think its opposite ur being unfair to Lupe. And ignoring the reality of his situation.
How is being as big as gkmc/TPAB not kendrick trajectory lol lupe career was trending to that point before it was halted
Yep but kendrick tour w drake, had an interlude on a drake album, had a huge single w rocky, 2chainz and drake 2 days after GKMC dropped. That s*** helped bro
You keep missing my point bro. I'm not sure if you're doing it on purpose or not. When did I say Kendrick wasn't helped? All of that help came after section 80, which I stated. My point again is.
If you put both of their careers on a gtaph after they got signed kendricks lowest point would be higher than lupes highest. I'm not sure if you took stats but that's not the same trajectory.. lupe was never gonna be Kendrick.
Iet me put it I'm other terms, if Kendrick retired after gkmc he would've still outsold lupe entire discography.
I’m also not f***ing with how Lupe was like “he head wasn’t 100% in the podcast” when bruh did all them eps with Royce laughing with like they was close homies
Just stating facts
Yea but yall being super bias. If dre was there for section 80 but it flopped how are you giving him credit for gkmc?
lupes whole trajectory got astronomically f***ed when f&l got leaked months prior to release. he would’ve had a bigger budget and more label trust for further albums had it not leaked and then sold more.
no doubt it would’ve went platinum
You keep missing my point bro. I'm not sure if you're doing it on purpose or not. When did I say Kendrick wasn't helped? All of that help came after section 80, which I stated. My point again is.
If you put both of their careers on a gtaph after they got signed kendricks lowest point would be higher than lupes highest. I'm not sure if you took stats but that's not the same trajectory.. lupe was never gonna be Kendrick.
Iet me put it I'm other terms, if Kendrick retired after gkmc he would've still outsold lupe entire discography.
Maybe this is the issue. I'm using the poster u were arguing before word of trajectory. What I mean is he could of been as big as kendrick in gkmc/tpab era some point in his career. Not that they follow the same course or path.
I only brought the points of kendrick being helped with GKMC cause u said "During GKMC Kendrick didn't have a single grammy, never headlined his own tour and never had a top 10 and he was still bigger than Lupe has ever been".
And provide reasons why that would of been
Maybe this is the issue. I'm using the poster u were arguing before word of trajectory. What I mean is he could of been as big as kendrick in gkmc/tpab era some point in his career. Not that they follow the same course or path.
I only brought the points of kendrick being helped with GKMC cause u said "During GKMC Kendrick didn't have a single grammy, never headlined his own tour and never had a top 10 and he was still bigger than Lupe has ever been".
And provide reasons why that would of been
Got you. Well we 100 percent agree on that.
Lupe has Zero platinum albums according to RIAA
Yeah, but remember, this was pre streaming when going platinum was waaay harder than it is now especially for a rapper and especially for Lupe who was going an anti-mainstream route content and subject-matter wise. Still managed to go gold. If LupEnd had released in 09 like it was intended to it would have gone gold easily on release day and maybe platinum later on.
Lupe had a protest for his album to come out lol THATS how much it was being anticipated.
To be 100% honest, his initial problems with Atlantic were his fault if we’re bein real.
From what I understand he initially had a 5 (?) album deal with Atlantic, he obv did F&L and the Cool. Then he tried to have LUPE.N.D. count as a triple album so he could finish his contract and “retire”. Lupe was like in his mid or early twenties at the time and just came off two very highly acclaimed albums with his biggest hit yet (Superstar), and was an extremely marketable artist with a ton of charisma and was one of the most respected rappers at the time even back then.
Like no f***ing s*** Atlantic was trying to hold him to actually release 5 albums as their artist at that time lmao. And then when it got ugly Atlantic was just holding on to him out of spite which was the f***ed up part.
And of course they forced him to rap on a bunch of commercial ass songs that he didn’t want to with Lasers and with whatever T&Y was before he was able to change it.
Lupe did that because the Label wanted a 360 deal.
Superstar was a top 10 hit without any label influence and Atlantic didn't like that. Thats why they wanted to get Lupe on a 360 deal because if they couldn't get the same amount of money off of Lupe like they do on any other artist with prebaked records they can at least make money off of Lupe's other stuff as he gain in popularity.
Lupe said F*** That, and tried to get off his current deal as quickly as possible by making LupEnd which was a 3 disc album so that he could complete the 5 album deal in one swoop, but then Atlantic was like f*** that, sign this 360 deal or we won't push your album out. And the rest is history
I’m also not f***ing with how Lupe was like “he head wasn’t 100% in the podcast” when bruh did all them eps with Royce laughing with like they was close homies
Nah I could definitely tell he wasn't it's plenty of episode where he just seemed disinterested. The 3 of them had weak chemistry. Podcast was mid.
Poopé been the salty old man yelling at a could in hiphop for too long now dude needs to hang it up and stop being a cornball.
Poopé been the salty old man yelling at a could in hiphop for too long now dude needs to hang it up and stop being a cornball.
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Damn prince Alexander still on here. I remember blocking that nigga on KTT1 and he's been blocked on here too for years. Dude is the ultimate cudi d***rider/lupe hater
Waynes verse on that was TRASH bro lmao come on
Lupe's verse
There's an arms race, like I'm runnin' on my hands
A dance marathon on my napalms, and
Drop mine's first so that they bombs can't
And Glocks, lasers, missiles, beat rocks, paper, scissors
I built mine's big, better build yours bigger
Built mine's quick so I could kill yours quicker
The number one supplier, the world's largest equipper
The second smallest dier, best non-coexister
I pledge allegiance to gasoline and bulletproof limousines
And leans on the property of the poor
And every night, I pray to the Lords Of War
Every man and mac eleven
That all good child rebel soldiers go to AK-47 heaven
And a landmine in every playground that they step in
And you took the footage from the camera on the tips
Of our bullets, and record like former Darfur
Wayne's verse
Yeah, it's Weezy, baby!
I am your arms dealer, I'm more like an armed dealer
Liter-rally, really, I don't get this song neither
But I'mma figure it out like a palm reader
And, since I be on TV, I turn it on to see me!
Hey, I'm so cool, even I wanna be me
That was totally off the subject
But for me, every song is like p**** so f*** it
Like Fresh, you dug it
Bro I nearly cried when BET gave him lyricist of the year over Lupe when the Cool came out
To be 100% honest, his initial problems with Atlantic were his fault if we’re bein real.
From what I understand he initially had a 5 (?) album deal with Atlantic, he obv did F&L and the Cool. Then he tried to have LUPE.N.D. count as a triple album so he could finish his contract and “retire”. Lupe was like in his mid or early twenties at the time and just came off two very highly acclaimed albums with his biggest hit yet (Superstar), and was an extremely marketable artist with a ton of charisma and was one of the most respected rappers at the time even back then.
Like no f***ing s*** Atlantic was trying to hold him to actually release 5 albums as their artist at that time lmao. And then when it got ugly Atlantic was just holding on to him out of spite which was the f***ed up part.
And of course they forced him to rap on a bunch of commercial ass songs that he didn’t want to with Lasers and with whatever T&Y was before he was able to change it.
How is this his fault, wasn't this a result of them trying to force the 360 deal?
Bro I nearly cried when BET gave him lyricist of the year over Lupe when the Cool came out
Forgot that even happened omg
Damn they let their egos get in the way of something that could’ve been pretty successful