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  • Jul 25, 2021
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    PNW

    Also dude had Dre in his corner even prior to S80

    And then a jay remix a few months later, and tour with ye right when GKMC dropped.

    Like I get bro point kendrick was bigger at the start but he didn't have as many barriers at the start, lupe was gonna get to that GKMC/ TPAB if his career was handled right

  • Jul 25, 2021
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    Oblivion X
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    And then a jay remix a few months later, and tour with ye right when GKMC dropped.

    Like I get bro point kendrick was bigger at the start but he didn't have as many barriers at the start, lupe was gonna get to that GKMC/ TPAB if his career was handled right

    Exactly, even then with like F&L we can’t forget that it was in works for a long time and completed even before he signed to Atlantic. Explains why The Cool came shortly after

    Idk if that information is relevant to this argument lol

  • Jul 25, 2021
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    Oblivion X

    Nah I think its opposite ur being unfair to Lupe. And ignoring the reality of his situation.

    How is being as big as gkmc/TPAB not kendrick trajectory lol lupe career was trending to that point before it was halted

    Yep but kendrick tour w drake, had an interlude on a drake album, had a huge single w rocky, 2chainz and drake 2 days after GKMC dropped. That s*** helped bro

    You keep missing my point bro. I'm not sure if you're doing it on purpose or not. When did I say Kendrick wasn't helped? All of that help came after section 80, which I stated. My point again is.

    If you put both of their careers on a gtaph after they got signed kendricks lowest point would be higher than lupes highest. I'm not sure if you took stats but that's not the same trajectory.. lupe was never gonna be Kendrick.

    Iet me put it I'm other terms, if Kendrick retired after gkmc he would've still outsold lupe entire discography.

  • Jul 25, 2021
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    PNW

    Also dude had Dre in his corner even prior to S80

    S80 sold 5k bro stop it.

  • Jul 25, 2021
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    NewCopeJustDropped

    S80 sold 5k bro stop it.

    Just stating facts

  • Jul 25, 2021
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    I’m also not f***ing with how Lupe was like “he head wasn’t 100% in the podcast” when bruh did all them eps with Royce laughing with like they was close homies

  • PNW

    Just stating facts

    Yea but yall being super bias. If dre was there for section 80 but it flopped how are you giving him credit for gkmc?

  • Jul 25, 2021
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    lupes whole trajectory got astronomically f***ed when f&l got leaked months prior to release. he would’ve had a bigger budget and more label trust for further albums had it not leaked and then sold more.

    no doubt it would’ve went platinum

  • Jul 25, 2021
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    NewCopeJustDropped

    You keep missing my point bro. I'm not sure if you're doing it on purpose or not. When did I say Kendrick wasn't helped? All of that help came after section 80, which I stated. My point again is.

    If you put both of their careers on a gtaph after they got signed kendricks lowest point would be higher than lupes highest. I'm not sure if you took stats but that's not the same trajectory.. lupe was never gonna be Kendrick.

    Iet me put it I'm other terms, if Kendrick retired after gkmc he would've still outsold lupe entire discography.

    Maybe this is the issue. I'm using the poster u were arguing before word of trajectory. What I mean is he could of been as big as kendrick in gkmc/tpab era some point in his career. Not that they follow the same course or path.

    I only brought the points of kendrick being helped with GKMC cause u said "During GKMC Kendrick didn't have a single grammy, never headlined his own tour and never had a top 10 and he was still bigger than Lupe has ever been".

    And provide reasons why that would of been

  • Oblivion X

    Maybe this is the issue. I'm using the poster u were arguing before word of trajectory. What I mean is he could of been as big as kendrick in gkmc/tpab era some point in his career. Not that they follow the same course or path.

    I only brought the points of kendrick being helped with GKMC cause u said "During GKMC Kendrick didn't have a single grammy, never headlined his own tour and never had a top 10 and he was still bigger than Lupe has ever been".

    And provide reasons why that would of been

    Got you. Well we 100 percent agree on that.

  • Jul 25, 2021
    NewCopeJustDropped

    Lupe has Zero platinum albums according to RIAA

    Yeah, but remember, this was pre streaming when going platinum was waaay harder than it is now especially for a rapper and especially for Lupe who was going an anti-mainstream route content and subject-matter wise. Still managed to go gold. If LupEnd had released in 09 like it was intended to it would have gone gold easily on release day and maybe platinum later on.

    Lupe had a protest for his album to come out lol THATS how much it was being anticipated.

  • Jul 25, 2021
    TheCoolestNigga

    To be 100% honest, his initial problems with Atlantic were his fault if we’re bein real.

    From what I understand he initially had a 5 (?) album deal with Atlantic, he obv did F&L and the Cool. Then he tried to have LUPE.N.D. count as a triple album so he could finish his contract and “retire”. Lupe was like in his mid or early twenties at the time and just came off two very highly acclaimed albums with his biggest hit yet (Superstar), and was an extremely marketable artist with a ton of charisma and was one of the most respected rappers at the time even back then.

    Like no f***ing s*** Atlantic was trying to hold him to actually release 5 albums as their artist at that time lmao. And then when it got ugly Atlantic was just holding on to him out of spite which was the f***ed up part.

    And of course they forced him to rap on a bunch of commercial ass songs that he didn’t want to with Lasers and with whatever T&Y was before he was able to change it.

    Lupe did that because the Label wanted a 360 deal.

    Superstar was a top 10 hit without any label influence and Atlantic didn't like that. Thats why they wanted to get Lupe on a 360 deal because if they couldn't get the same amount of money off of Lupe like they do on any other artist with prebaked records they can at least make money off of Lupe's other stuff as he gain in popularity.

    Lupe said F*** That, and tried to get off his current deal as quickly as possible by making LupEnd which was a 3 disc album so that he could complete the 5 album deal in one swoop, but then Atlantic was like f*** that, sign this 360 deal or we won't push your album out. And the rest is history

  • Jul 25, 2021
    Crack Palm Stepper

    I’m also not f***ing with how Lupe was like “he head wasn’t 100% in the podcast” when bruh did all them eps with Royce laughing with like they was close homies

    Nah I could definitely tell he wasn't it's plenty of episode where he just seemed disinterested. The 3 of them had weak chemistry. Podcast was mid.

  • Jul 25, 2021
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    Poopé been the salty old man yelling at a could in hiphop for too long now dude needs to hang it up and stop being a cornball.

  • Jul 25, 2021

    Not sure when or why this beef started but that was a a pretty solid diss record

  • Jul 25, 2021

    Yo tvis is f***ing hard

  • Jul 25, 2021
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    PrinceAlexander

    Poopé been the salty old man yelling at a could in hiphop for too long now dude needs to hang it up and stop being a cornball.

  • Jul 25, 2021
    Frankito Reynolds

    Damn prince Alexander still on here. I remember blocking that nigga on KTT1 and he's been blocked on here too for years. Dude is the ultimate cudi d***rider/lupe hater

  • Jul 25, 2021

    I really dont care bout this tbh

  • This is such a good diss track. Really laid back but absolutely violent.

  • Jul 25, 2021
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    SegaDreamFlash

    Waynes verse on that was TRASH bro lmao come on

    Lupe's verse

    There's an arms race, like I'm runnin' on my hands
    A dance marathon on my napalms, and
    Drop mine's first so that they bombs can't
    And Glocks, lasers, missiles, beat rocks, paper, scissors
    I built mine's big, better build yours bigger
    Built mine's quick so I could kill yours quicker
    The number one supplier, the world's largest equipper
    The second smallest dier, best non-coexister
    I pledge allegiance to gasoline and bulletproof limousines
    And leans on the property of the poor
    And every night, I pray to the Lords Of War
    Every man and mac eleven
    That all good child rebel soldiers go to AK-47 heaven
    And a landmine in every playground that they step in
    And you took the footage from the camera on the tips
    Of our bullets, and record like former Darfur

    Wayne's verse

    Yeah, it's Weezy, baby!
    I am your arms dealer, I'm more like an armed dealer
    Liter-rally, really, I don't get this song neither
    But I'mma figure it out like a palm reader
    And, since I be on TV, I turn it on to see me!
    Hey, I'm so cool, even I wanna be me
    That was totally off the subject
    But for me, every song is like p**** so f*** it
    Like Fresh, you dug it

    Bro I nearly cried when BET gave him lyricist of the year over Lupe when the Cool came out

  • Jul 25, 2021
    TheCoolestNigga

    To be 100% honest, his initial problems with Atlantic were his fault if we’re bein real.

    From what I understand he initially had a 5 (?) album deal with Atlantic, he obv did F&L and the Cool. Then he tried to have LUPE.N.D. count as a triple album so he could finish his contract and “retire”. Lupe was like in his mid or early twenties at the time and just came off two very highly acclaimed albums with his biggest hit yet (Superstar), and was an extremely marketable artist with a ton of charisma and was one of the most respected rappers at the time even back then.

    Like no f***ing s*** Atlantic was trying to hold him to actually release 5 albums as their artist at that time lmao. And then when it got ugly Atlantic was just holding on to him out of spite which was the f***ed up part.

    And of course they forced him to rap on a bunch of commercial ass songs that he didn’t want to with Lasers and with whatever T&Y was before he was able to change it.

    How is this his fault, wasn't this a result of them trying to force the 360 deal?

  • Jul 25, 2021
    Swayzomad

    Bro I nearly cried when BET gave him lyricist of the year over Lupe when the Cool came out

    Forgot that even happened omg

  • Jul 25, 2021

    Damn they let their egos get in the way of something that could’ve been pretty successful

  • Jul 25, 2021

    Aye yo this is hard

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