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  • Jan 9
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    YoungFashioned

    only if he gets after it defensively, thought about ochai or whatever from toronto too

    rob should be looking for any deal along the margins including dalton and our second rounder because its clear he doesnt fit future plans

    I like Ochai too. I've been watching alot of tape from him.

    Raptors are looking to salary dump him to get under the luxury tax and they're looking for a backup big.

    They had talks with the Suns and tried to trade him for Nick Richards and a second round pick but Suns weren't too interested in Ochai and the second round pick would convey in the 50s so they didn't pull the trigger on the deal.

    I think we can realistically get him.

    I did a trade in a trade machine and the money works in a 3 team trade

    Lakers get

    Terance Mann
    Haywood Highsmith
    Ochai Agbaji

    Nets get

    Jarred Vanderbilt
    Dalton Knecht
    Gabe Vincent
    Toronto second round pick

    Raptors get

    Dayron Sharpe

    Raptors get their backup big. Nets get a young player in Knecht, expiring contracts, and draft compensation.

    Vando and Terance Mann have similar contracts -- same amount of years but Terance Mann is making around $15 million while Vando is making around $11 million.

    Lakers get 3 two way players. They can put Mann in the starting lineup if Highsmith becomes a dud and have Ochai come off the bench.

  • Ye24 🧢
    Jan 9
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    Silas

    Lakers get
    Nic Claxton
    Ziaire Williams
    Haywood Highsmith

    Nets get
    Rui Hachimura
    Gabe Vincent
    Deandre Ayton
    first round pick

    Ziaire Williams is a cheap,athletic wing.

    Highsmith is injured right now but if healthy, he can be a pretty good 3 and D wing. He's also an expiring so it doesn't f*** up our future flexibility.

    Luka gets his ideal center instead of Ayton.

    Tried this trade in a trade machine and the money works.

    You think Rob would pull a trigger on a trade like this even if it costs a first round pick? Would yall do this trade? @YoungFashioned @Ye24 @Camille

    I like Claxton but feel like thats giving up a lot for him. Not really high on Zhaire or Highsmith tbh. I know he had some good moments for Miami last year but just not sure he’s consistent enough

  • Silas

    I like Ochai too. I've been watching alot of tape from him.

    Raptors are looking to salary dump him to get under the luxury tax and they're looking for a backup big.

    They had talks with the Suns and tried to trade him for Nick Richards and a second round pick but Suns weren't too interested in Ochai and the second round pick would convey in the 50s so they didn't pull the trigger on the deal.

    I think we can realistically get him.

    I did a trade in a trade machine and the money works in a 3 team trade

    Lakers get

    Terance Mann
    Haywood Highsmith
    Ochai Agbaji

    Nets get

    Jarred Vanderbilt
    Dalton Knecht
    Gabe Vincent
    Toronto second round pick

    Raptors get

    Dayron Sharpe

    Raptors get their backup big. Nets get a young player in Knecht, expiring contracts, and draft compensation.

    Vando and Terance Mann have similar contracts -- same amount of years but Terance Mann is making around $15 million while Vando is making around $11 million.

    Lakers get 3 two way players. They can put Mann in the starting lineup if Highsmith becomes a dud and have Ochai come off the bench.

    I can't see the Nets taking on Vando's contract and not getting a first back. But if they were to, I'd do that deal for sure. Definitely would help, but still far from being a contender

  • YoungFashioned

    only if he gets after it defensively, thought about ochai or whatever from toronto too

    rob should be looking for any deal along the margins including dalton and our second rounder because its clear he doesnt fit future plans

    I think AJ Johnson has the potential to be a great defender being athletic, and good wingspan… the move is probably best for long term. Look at our back up guards

    Luka and Reaves are prolly locked in as our starting guards for years. Our current backups

    Marcus Smart - he’s good right now. He’s old tho. Could fall off soon

    Gabe Vincent- he’s average and going be a free agent. He could be upgraded….

    AJ Johnson wouldn’t have an immediate role, but there could be a role soon if he develops. He can play either SG or PG…

    I think Knecht is lost in the shuffle because we signed LaRavia. I guess we like him better…. LaRavia Is young too… Thiero was also drafted and probably is best at SF. I believe we are high on him to be a rotation player. Idk if Knecht has a role long term. Maybe we could play him at SG but JJ refuses… I just think Knecht and AJ Johnson are similar prospects. Knecht is prolly more ready now, and AJ Johnson is a bigger gamble / ceiling

  • Silas

    Lakers get
    Nic Claxton
    Ziaire Williams
    Haywood Highsmith

    Nets get
    Rui Hachimura
    Gabe Vincent
    Deandre Ayton
    first round pick

    Ziaire Williams is a cheap,athletic wing.

    Highsmith is injured right now but if healthy, he can be a pretty good 3 and D wing. He's also an expiring so it doesn't f*** up our future flexibility.

    Luka gets his ideal center instead of Ayton.

    Tried this trade in a trade machine and the money works.

    You think Rob would pull a trigger on a trade like this even if it costs a first round pick? Would yall do this trade? @YoungFashioned @Ye24 @Camille

    No thanks

  • Jan 9
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    Silas

    Lakers get
    Nic Claxton
    Ziaire Williams
    Haywood Highsmith

    Nets get
    Rui Hachimura
    Gabe Vincent
    Deandre Ayton
    first round pick

    Ziaire Williams is a cheap,athletic wing.

    Highsmith is injured right now but if healthy, he can be a pretty good 3 and D wing. He's also an expiring so it doesn't f*** up our future flexibility.

    Luka gets his ideal center instead of Ayton.

    Tried this trade in a trade machine and the money works.

    You think Rob would pull a trigger on a trade like this even if it costs a first round pick? Would yall do this trade? @YoungFashioned @Ye24 @Camille

    i'd rather rob hold onto the pick until we can trade two firsts for a very impactful wing, someone like trey murphy, herb jones level. that's just way more important on this team than using a first for a big. Might just be fine with Hayes being the starter next season if he takes another leap as he has this year and signing like a kornet-level backup (price, impact) instead of paying 25+ mill for Claxton.

  • Jan 9
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    Ye24

    I like Claxton but feel like thats giving up a lot for him. Not really high on Zhaire or Highsmith tbh. I know he had some good moments for Miami last year but just not sure he’s consistent enough

    I don't see Heat giving up Wiggins without a first. Also, I don't think Lakers get Herb Jones with just one first.

    Dalton and a second is the best they should do so for Keon Ellis so I think someone will outbid them.

    anybody u like as a marginal move ?

  • Jan 9
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    YoungFashioned

    i'd rather rob hold onto the pick until we can trade two firsts for a very impactful wing, someone like trey murphy, herb jones level. that's just way more important on this team than using a first for a big. Might just be fine with Hayes being the starter next season if he takes another leap as he has this year and signing like a kornet-level backup (price, impact) instead of paying 25+ mill for Claxton.

    Could honestly see them just keeping Herb Jones tbh

  • Ye24 🧢
    Jan 9
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    Silas

    I don't see Heat giving up Wiggins without a first. Also, I don't think Lakers get Herb Jones with just one first.

    Dalton and a second is the best they should do so for Keon Ellis so I think someone will outbid them.

    anybody u like as a marginal move ?

    I’m honestly not sure. I was deadset on hoping we could go in on Herb but if NO isn’t gonna trade him we obviously need to pivot. Keon Ellis i think is a decent marginal move but not sure how much he really moves the needle

    Im just hoping a package of Knecht, Maxi Kleber + the first is enough to get someone decent. I just dont know who that someone is atm

  • Silas

    I like Ochai too. I've been watching alot of tape from him.

    Raptors are looking to salary dump him to get under the luxury tax and they're looking for a backup big.

    They had talks with the Suns and tried to trade him for Nick Richards and a second round pick but Suns weren't too interested in Ochai and the second round pick would convey in the 50s so they didn't pull the trigger on the deal.

    I think we can realistically get him.

    I did a trade in a trade machine and the money works in a 3 team trade

    Lakers get

    Terance Mann
    Haywood Highsmith
    Ochai Agbaji

    Nets get

    Jarred Vanderbilt
    Dalton Knecht
    Gabe Vincent
    Toronto second round pick

    Raptors get

    Dayron Sharpe

    Raptors get their backup big. Nets get a young player in Knecht, expiring contracts, and draft compensation.

    Vando and Terance Mann have similar contracts -- same amount of years but Terance Mann is making around $15 million while Vando is making around $11 million.

    Lakers get 3 two way players. They can put Mann in the starting lineup if Highsmith becomes a dud and have Ochai come off the bench.

    I can't give Vando up just yet, even though I love O

  • Jan 10
  • Silas

    Could honestly see them just keeping Herb Jones tbh

    https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/2009711895524303194

    doesnt have to be herb jones exactly, but that caliber of a wing.

  • Jan 10
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    Ye24

    I’m honestly not sure. I was deadset on hoping we could go in on Herb but if NO isn’t gonna trade him we obviously need to pivot. Keon Ellis i think is a decent marginal move but not sure how much he really moves the needle

    Im just hoping a package of Knecht, Maxi Kleber + the first is enough to get someone decent. I just dont know who that someone is atm

    even if NO was trading him, 1 first is absolutely not getting it done and that goes for any wing of his caliber in today's nba, every team wants elite 3+d wings. thats why im saying rob might as well hold on to that pick so he can trade two, because thats going to be starting point at the very least

  • Ye24 🧢
    Jan 10
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    YoungFashioned

    even if NO was trading him, 1 first is absolutely not getting it done and that goes for any wing of his caliber in today's nba, every team wants elite 3+d wings. thats why im saying rob might as well hold on to that pick so he can trade two, because thats going to be starting point at the very least

    I was previously operating under the mindset that Dalton Knecht was still looked at as a first round talent but clearly his value has tanked

    Yeah i just dont know who we could get with just one first round pick to throw in

  • Jan 10
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    Ye24
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    I was previously operating under the mindset that Dalton Knecht was still looked at as a first round talent but clearly his value has tanked

    Yeah i just dont know who we could get with just one first round pick to throw in

    no one that really moves the needle

    dalton is probably 2 seconds rn lol

  • Ye24 🧢
    Jan 10
    YoungFashioned

    no one that really moves the needle

    dalton is probably 2 seconds rn lol

  • halleys comet 🧶
    Jan 10
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    ffs

  • Jan 10

    JJ Redick took responsibility for the Lakers' poor late-game execution. He said he was trying to call a timeout after the ball got past half court on the final possession but they didn't hear him. He also gave credit to Giannis for his two big defensive plays.

  • Jan 10

    Luka Doncic says he "for sure" could have executed better down the stretch. He doesn't think the officiating affected him; he just missed shots he normally makes.

    "It was a terrible day for me."

  • Jan 10

    Luka Doncic on his final foul:

    "That's on me, Can't foul on a 3-pointer... I don't think he shoots like that, but the referee said it's a foul so I guess it's a foul."

  • Jan 10

    Jake LaRavia called this a "tough" loss because of how hard the Lakers fought and had a chance to close it out down the stretch.

  • Ye24 🧢
    Jan 10
    halleys comet

    ffs

  • Jan 11
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  • Jan 11
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    Ye24

    I was previously operating under the mindset that Dalton Knecht was still looked at as a first round talent but clearly his value has tanked

    Yeah i just dont know who we could get with just one first round pick to throw in

    there's actually a two way wing that we could get for just one first round pick

    and it's Miles Bridges

    He's making $25 million this year and $22 million next year so he's on a good contract.

    He's inconsistent from 3 and doesn't shoot a high percentage but stats show he's a really good catch-and-shoot shooter, especially on corner threes.

    His defensive numbers don't look that good and are pretty inconsistent since Charlie Lee uses him to guard the paint but he's versatile (can guard 1-4) and can keep guys in front of him.

    I know his past on court issues were a problem but at the end of the day, we got Jaxson Hayes on our roster for the same thing.

    Pelinka f***ed over Hornet by rescinding that Knecht x Williams trade so they might not want to trade with the Lakers.

    But setting aside the oncourt issues and assuming that the Hornets are over the trade (and can still get Knecht), Would yall make this trade?

    @YoungFashioned