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  • CKL TML 🌺
    Mar 12, 2020

    They didnt even try to hide it with Jay directly copying Lupe's flow, cadence and writing style.

    Context:

    “Just built this rapport with Jay,” he said. “Being able to go to Baseline Studios, see him put together joints like The Black Album and stuff like that, be a part of that, give him joints for that. So, he’s always been in the mix, not so much the past couple albums or the past few years but still the homie though.” - Lupe

  • Mar 12, 2020

    Yea I always questioned that as well. I really hope it isn’t true.

  • proper 🔩
    Mar 12, 2020

    I GOT A THING FOR THEM BIG BODY BENZES
    INDULGE MY SENSES
    IN LOVE W A V DUB ENGINE

    I don’t even like cars like that but love this line/flow

  • CKL TML 🌺
    OP
    Mar 12, 2020
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    sure, but lupe saying he gave hov joints for the black album (eventhough he later denied writing for hov) and one of lupe's producers saying this makes me suspecious

  • Mar 12, 2020
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    CKL TML

    sure, but lupe saying he gave hov joints for the black album (eventhough he later denied writing for hov) and one of lupe's producers saying this makes me suspecious

    https://twitter.com/prolyfic_/status/19315903990

    The ironic thing is Meek said "If Hov had ghostwriters I would call him out too" in his 2015 rant, but apparently its common knowledge that Lupe wrote the Black Album to some degree.

    Even Bun B said most of the GOATs had help and he did joints with Hov since back in the day.

  • CKL TML 🌺
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    Mar 12, 2020
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    Scott Raiden

    The ironic thing is Meek said "If Hov had ghostwriters I would call him out too" in his 2015 rant, but apparently its common knowledge that Lupe wrote the Black Album to some degree.

    Even Bun B said most of the GOATs had help and he did joints with Hov since back in the day.

    Yeah there were also rumours of jay elec writing for nas untitled album

  • Mar 12, 2020
    CKL TML

    Yeah there were also rumours of jay elec writing for nas untitled album

    Him and stic.man from Dead Prez. Jay Elec denied the rumors, but that doesn't mean much.

  • Mar 12, 2020

    wow two goats

  • Mar 12, 2020

    It's one of the few hip hop ghostwriting rumours i believe is true. Obviously neither party can come out either due to contract, reputation, blackballing or friendship.

    Imagine if Jay never left him at Atlantic, what a terrible turn of events that was for Lupe.

  • Mar 12, 2020
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    Breh went from Lupe writing for him to Offset

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    Fade to black was staged lol.

  • Mar 12, 2020
    ItsANewWorld

    Fade to black was staged lol.

    I’ve always wondered too because Jay’s reaction looked scripted and some takes made it in where he was obviously going for smth specific
    @proper

    I cant check rn but on one take he says some textbook ass s*** n legit goes “you got that?” and then bursts out laughing at it as they cut

  • Mar 12, 2020

    this has always just been chatty patty to me. what other example in jay z whole career was it rumoured that he had a ghost writer? the closest thing was the young chris thing but that was just jay z stealing his flow. jay takes flows but if you look at how he makes songs it’s extremely hard to believe anyone has ever ghost written for him

  • Mar 12, 2020
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    Hov so flawless niggas just saying silly s*** to sully his name

  • Mar 12, 2020

    now that you say it this is such a lupe song

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    CKL TML

    They didnt even try to hide it with Jay directly copying Lupe's flow, cadence and writing style.

    Context:

    “Just built this rapport with Jay,” he said. “Being able to go to Baseline Studios, see him put together joints like The Black Album and stuff like that, be a part of that, give him joints for that. So, he’s always been in the mix, not so much the past couple albums or the past few years but still the homie though.” - Lupe

    chill out. Jay is a sponge. the whole purpose of this album is Jay Z showcasing how many different flows he can have on one album.
    Have you seen the documentary? Hov takes flow and cadence from Kanye...it wouldnt suprise me he did the same with lupe, doesnt mean lupe wrote for him.

  • Mar 12, 2020
    slimjack

    chill out. Jay is a sponge. the whole purpose of this album is Jay Z showcasing how many different flows he can have on one album.
    Have you seen the documentary? Hov takes flow and cadence from Kanye...it wouldnt suprise me he did the same with lupe, doesnt mean lupe wrote for him.

    He’s a Drake stan

  • Mar 12, 2020
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    Big sean ghostwrote graduation

  • Mar 12, 2020

    Lupe himself said this isn't true lol

  • proper 🔩
    Mar 12, 2020

    tru life ghostwrote lupes kick push real ones know

  • Mar 12, 2020
    CKL TML

    Yeah there were also rumours of jay elec writing for nas untitled album

    has Jay Elec all over it

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    KIN

    Hov so flawless niggas just saying silly s*** to sully his name

    The post above me confirms this thread is full of people just insulting Jay and Nas' own pens my g.

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    CKL TML

    sure, but lupe saying he gave hov joints for the black album (eventhough he later denied writing for hov) and one of lupe's producers saying this makes me suspecious

    https://twitter.com/prolyfic_/status/19315903990

    If I remember correctly Lupe just gave him the "What more Can I Say" beat that was originally his. The "writing for the black album" comment could've just be a feature.

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    Ever since Drake got called out for having writers his fans been trying their hardest to act like everyone else in the industry has ghostwriters too

    Stop it bruh fr

  • Mar 12, 2020
    The Retiring Mane

    The post above me confirms this thread is full of people just insulting Jay and Nas' own pens my g.

    The Jay Elect writing Nas Untitled has been rumored for YEARS