WeDontTrustYou

2y

It's amazing how this is allegedly a Kanye forum and yall still turn to dumbasses when it comes to reference tracks

thegreatdivine

2y

I said I think so because it's very heavily Yachty coded. Obviously, we don't know that for sure.

YeaOk

2y

Do you actually have a mental disability?

The issue here isn’t it being a reference track, the issue here is that it’s word for war bar for bar flow for flow, the same exact song except with Drake’s voice on it instead

He’s no better than Rihanna, a pop singer

Kanye makes up for his lack of writing with his production and his ability to execute his visions for his projects, Drake doesn’t do that s***

CKL TML

2y

Ye doesnt get s*** for it lmao

SeattleZ12

2y

So he wrote a third of the album

SeattleZ12

2y

Well after hearing this ref we can’t give the benefit of the doubt if we keepin it a bean

WeDontTrustYou

2y

Stay mad breh

YeaOk

2y

Be grateful my logger is down

WeDontTrustYou

2y

Cap

Drake wrote 30 hours, Yikes, PND wrote on Ghost Town and Wouldn't Leave, Pardi wrote Violent Crimes

That's almost the entire album where he's getting songwriters help lmao

And that's not even mentioning Donda or Vultures

NewCopeJustDropped

2y

He cannot be considered the greatest rapper when he has help. Beyoncé type help. Rihanna type help. The same reason why people clarify that Kanye a goat artist and not rapper is because he gets help.

The rules haven’t changed. I can go back to the 80s where rappers have had hooks written.

It’s never been acceptable to have verse written and then criticize your peers for laziness. Not one time

thegreatdivine

2y

Whatever. Y'all the ones who care that much about this. It's countless other people who would only care if Drake was getting his most lyrical/personal songs written by other people but y'all got it

NewCopeJustDropped

2y

Drake has more refrence tracks than all of peers combined.

Y’all cannot be serious.

NewCopeJustDropped

2y

He cannot be considered the greatest rapper when he has help. Beyoncé type help. Rihanna type help. The same reason why people clarify that Kanye a goat artist and not rapper is because he gets help.

The rules haven’t changed. I can go back to the 80s where rappers have had hooks written.

It’s never been acceptable to have verse written and then criticize your peers for laziness. Not one time

NICEMAN

2y

I've heard the 30 Hours reference but it was only those first few lines. And again, this has been known and it's resulted in Ye's ranking as a rapper being undermined. We still got niggas claiming that Drake is the GOAT with all these reference tracks as evidence of him taking ideas and spitting them word for word with the same flow

Draxx556

2y

And all them niggas got reference tracks themselves quit grabbing at straws and tell ya boy to drop he on the clock

quadra

2y

A reference track doesn't tell you the magnitude of who wrote what either

It tells you that the person recorded a reference with flow and inflections in particular spots

Could be 100% one person or easily co-wrote

thegreatdivine

2y

Whatever. Y'all the ones who care that much about this. It's countless other people who would only care if Drake was getting his most lyrical/personal songs written by other people but y'all got it

YeaOk

2y

When you hear someone “helped” on a project you aren’t thinking that they wrote an entire song for them

You’re thinking they assisted on production or with a couple of lines, and of course we have the stan brigade playing it off like it’s no big deal because they became hip-hop fans post-2015

Morons

YeaOk

2y

When you hear someone “helped” on a project you aren’t thinking that they wrote an entire song for them

You’re thinking they assisted on production or with a couple of lines, and of course we have the stan brigade playing it off like it’s no big deal because they became hip-hop fans post-2015

Morons

K DOG 99

2y

Ye is the GOAT gtfo here with that revisionism

Everyone knows he don't write s*** and still know that

NICEMAN

2y

That's your opinion and I personally got him up there as one of the best artists of all time with Michael, The Beatles etc.

But that's not the consensus You think if he wrote all of it himself, a nigga with a discography like TCD-MBDTF wouldn't have been up there on those lists instead of rappers like Pac and Em