the way people talk about C3 it's like it doesn't have A Milli, Mr Carter, 3 Peat, Let The Beat Build, Dr Carter, Mrs Officer, Phone Home.. yeah they swapped some weaker records in for the leaked ones like La La/La La La but it's still top tier
Phone home the worst song on that album
Idk at what point in history would any of the goats be considered such off weak albums lol
pre Raising Hell rappers because it was still normal for a whole genre to not be LP focused
pre Raising Hell rappers because it was still normal for a whole genre to not be LP focused
I mean yea sure
Lemme rephrase, it’s been a long ass time since that
Regardless of how I feel about C3 and Wayne album discography, Wayne does have many many classic mixtapes doe and was definitely one of my influences when I was first learning how to rap
Bro it always depends on
That shift happened a while ago it’s just the biggest thing now because there’s plenty of goat artists who aren’t insane rappers but they have great albums
Ppl want good music we haven’t judged someone’s career by their bars in forever lol blog era raised ppl standards
and on that note I say Wayne has enough classics and albums good enough to meet that standard. "one of the worst discographies in hip hop" is insane to me lol
It's not Kendrick level clean and I'd even put Drake's disco above Wayne's if we go album for album. but this s*** isn't all about albums to me it's more about how good you rap on a beat. call me old school
Tbh no
Em’s overwhelming sucess is because half the people that listen to him don’t even listen to rap “I don’t like rap but I like Eminem” and he appealed to white teenagers and engaged in white pop culture lol. That’s what took him to being MASSIVE HUMONGOUS. He was white so he inherently had that crossover appeal he appealed to the whites
But either way, his hook game used to be really good, he had good albums, he rapped really well, and he had a very unique jarring persona
Yeah that was like a hack that put him in the triple Diamond or whatever tier of sales. Meant more the acclaim and credibility through co-signs. Missy Elliot had him on her album almost before he even blew up.
I mean yea sure
Lemme rephrase, it’s been a long ass time since that
Agreed lol so it definitely wasn't Kanye
Yeah that was like a hack that put him in the triple Diamond or whatever tier of sales. Meant more the acclaim and credibility through co-signs. Missy Elliot had him on her album almost before he even blew up.
Mans could listen to hip hop without having to deal with blackness lol
and on that note I say Wayne has enough classics and albums good enough to meet that standard. "one of the worst discographies in hip hop" is insane to me lol
It's not Kendrick level clean and I'd even put Drake's disco above Wayne's if we go album for album. but this s*** isn't all about albums to me it's more about how good you rap on a beat. call me old school
Yea I agree I do think it’s kinda unfair to judge Wayne by anything post 2015 tbh
About Wayne albums not the how good u rap thing I think the quality of ur music is what matters the most
Phone home the worst song on that album
Lalala and p**** monster r rly bad
you could take 12, 14, 16, 18 loose Wayne songs, toss them together, and it'd be better then some folks' best album
La la sounds like one of those worst beat ever fl studio videos
i remember turning that song on and thinking, " what in the hell kind of Teletubbies beat is this?"
I just realized rebirth came out a year after C3 holy s*** how disappointing that must’ve been
It was kind of expected tbh. There was this whole press run where he would skateboard and try to play guitar and distance himself from rap. Everyone knew it would be bad and then it was lmao
I think they cared about album quality before caring specifically about rapping ability was even a thing. It's not like bars were necessarily the focus of at the beginning of raps history. Became a thing between Paid in Full and Illmatic.
I can get with that. I mean at the point rap fans were overwhelmingly calling Wayne an Goat he already had C2 and C3. he had is diploma but most importantly he was great at his job.
Ngl C3 is very flawed that s*** has like 3 s***ty songs and like 2 that just didn’t age the best and a 15 minute outro
The rest is so good tho
i mean yeah he has way more projects than most people in the conversation
even his worse music is better than someone like eminem’s post d**** output
It was kind of expected tbh. There was this whole press run where he would skateboard and try to play guitar and distance himself from rap. Everyone knew it would be bad and then it was lmao
oh ok that’s better atleast
Imagine he dropped that s*** out of nowhere after c3