Water Giver

5y

Nah bro everyone loved thug n never said a bad thing about him he been a million plus selling artist since 2012 & God's chosen one what you talking bout?

SegaDreamFlash

5y

Nah the ATCQ s*** I’m talking about is a full on anti-gay song them niggas was wylin

And I can’t say straight up agenda but an openly gay rapper would not have made it in the 90s bruh

SegaDreamFlash

5y

Yo you’re being extra as f*** bruh lmao my main point was that Thug and Tekashis backlash wasn’t as intense as LNX’s is right now.

Nigga put on a dress and still got them street collabs.

Tekashi fondled a 13 year old and still had songs with huge names in the industry.

Both these niggas have (or maybe had in Tekashi case) a larger rap fan base than LNX.

CuzzoP

5y

lesgettishit

Water Giver

5y

Sad he was forced to come out tbh & seemingly "had" to completely own it to raise above the backlash

S*** must suck really bad on a personal level and who knows if he was even prepared himself to come to terms with it like that

fashion killa

5y

hip-hop culture is homophobic. im not saying its inherently homophobic bc that makes it sound like its a core component of what hip hop is abt, like if it wasn't homophobic it wouldn't rlly be hip hop. no, I think hip hop can totally exist without homophobia, nothing inherently ties them together.

BUT hip hop in general, today, is broadly homophobic. homophobia is the norm, homophobia is assumed. I don't have the power to give u a study on this or a perfect a***ysis of every hip hop personality in the world, so yeah the best I can rlly do is anecdotal stuff and looking at specific examples, but I promise u im not making s*** up, hip hop generally doesn't like gay ppl.

and "I don't care abt gay ppl" is textbook toleration over understanding, like I was saying. ppl who don't care abt gay ppl usually still don't actually accept or understand them, they just tolerate them bc thats what they are told is right. and don't get me wrong thats wayyyy better than intolerance, but it is still just one step away from blatant homophobia. think of it as quiet homophobia.

actually, that works rlly well. to a lot of these ppl, there is some agreement along the lines of "you be quietly gay and ill be quietly homophobic" and past a certain point the contract is voided and blatant homophobia is totally fair game. that contract is terrible though, that's the issue. it doesn't solve anything it just pushes the homophobia deeper down. not to mention the terms only seem fair from a homophobe's perspective. to a gay person, being gay is who they are, they can't change it. they are being told "don't be urself too much or else". those aren't fair terms, its just bullying. but its absurdly hard to talk to ppl abt this because they will almost always say "I don't hate gay ppl I could care less about them as long as they stay out of my business"

I have a question for u. how could someone be too loudly gay? like what could they do to justify open homophobia?

eye contact

5y

What was the reason he came out because of his islamaphobi ?!?!

Water Giver

5y

LNX is not a rapper and barely raps, of course the others would have a bigger rap fanbase

Lil Nas X still bigger overall

My point was controversy n ridiculing existed before Nas X happened

Yall went od extra with all the reaching n twisting you did but i digress

HaroldsChicken

5y

come on bro you know what I mean. When the Kanye Jefferee star bullshit rumors you saw what happened and Kanye has been non homophobic his whole career. Same way amber rose brought up playing in his booty.

fashion killa

5y

all very very true

some ppl are just stuck in denial and don't wanna accept that maybe rap does have a homophobia problem worth looking at lol

what I wanna know is why. why so resistant to that? what would be so bad abt acknowledging homophobia in hip hop?

Astronaut Dad

5y

ive said it before and ill say it again, lnx is just a chaotic good tekashi

eye contact

5y

What was the reason he came out because of his islamaphobi ?!?!

Water Giver

5y

Never said hiphop wasnt homophobic or didnt have a history of attacking or clowning gays

Changeofheart

5y

Literally no one cares that frank and Tyler are gay/bi

SegaDreamFlash

5y

Except he’s actually rapping for a good amount of songs on the album. Like enough to the point where he can be considered a rapper by today’s standards

People using the he barely raps argument when it’s tons of rappers in the game who sing and do melodies now, the genre changed.

And yes ridiculing existed before LNX but the fact that all these rappers had no problem tapping in with a convicted pedo in Tekashi but are more offended by LNX’s antics should tell you something

fashion killa

5y

yea u didn't but dude itt was literally saying it wasn't

HaroldsChicken

5y

come on bro

Water Giver

5y

Disagree. He's obviously more pop n singing oriented. He does rap but i wouldnt say he isnt a rapper nor is in the genre of rap, he himself even seperated himself from rap way back.

There is a clear difference between Rap Singing n most of the way he sings.

Some rappers did. Thats on the other rappers. Some rappers are still with Nas X, but of course some would avoid him because they (sadly) dont like gays or dont wanna be misconstrued as gay themselves. He's still doing good.

Tell me what? That there are niggas that hate gay people? Not a revelation n never denied that. My point was on "antics".

Changeofheart

5y

Most people seem to either like their music or not, it’s not based on if there gay or straight

Saint Aquinas

5y

if the culture was homophobic frank wouldn't be revered.

Water Giver

5y

Oh thot you were referring to me because his post was a reply towards me

My b

SegaDreamFlash

5y

Both rappers had “antics” tho and niggas wasn’t afraid to collab with one even though he was a convicted s***criminal. But then wanna tell Nas to think of the kids lol