yup
“fuck the streets” isn’t about all this s*** Boosie’s projecting
it’s about the mentality & these arbitrary rules that come with it
“the streets got you where you are today” - yes and YSL just came back from a whole RICO case because of it. Unfoonk got locked up AGAIN right after getting out because he went right back to the streets. f*** the streets, trying to pander to the streets will only leave you dead or in jail, no other outcome.
“don’t rap about the streets if you say f*** the streets” - people are going to rap about their experiences, and these artists are from the streets. it’s just willful ignorance to pretend you interpret “fuck the streets” in this way because you already disliked the people saying it & wanted a chance to finally speak up about it
the whole “rapping about your personal experience vs. glorifying the streets” discussion is completely separate from this tbh and has some validity to it, but that’s a whole separate topic.
“don’t rap about the streets if you say f*** the streets” - people are going to rap about their experiences, and these artists are from the streets. it’s just willful ignorance to pretend you interpret “fuck the streets” in this way because you already disliked the people saying it & wanted a chance to finally speak up about it
You can't say this just to follow up with
the whole “rapping about your personal experience vs. glorifying the streets” discussion is completely separate from this tbh.
Because it's not separate, it's actually all the same. Yall are commenting on this with "stan brain" so of course you'll have this take. I'm commenting on this from "teaching 3rd graders brain" and seeing exactly what the music. has. an. effect. on. folks.
Rapping about your lifestyle is glorifying said lifestyle. Rapping about guns or shooting opps (IN PRESENT TENSE) is glorifying the task of guns and/or shooting opps. These folks are not talking about the streets from a "cautionary" perspective ala Hov did on H to the Izzo 3rd verse.
Glorifying a lifestyle makes said lifestyle attractive to the average listener. If average listener comes from similar upbringings with no guidance, they will find influence in the music. Unlike movies, music comes from realistic places and realistic names and realistic addresses that these kids can reach, touch even. Crackers "tour" O'Block every f***ing year lol.
And I know on ktt2 we like to act like that isn't true or if someone says that he's #coon or #uncleruckus but at some point, niggas gotta admit C Dolores Tucker mighta been spitting lol.

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“don’t rap about the streets if you say f*** the streets” - people are going to rap about their experiences, and these artists are from the streets. it’s just willful ignorance to pretend you interpret “fuck the streets” in this way because you already disliked the people saying it & wanted a chance to finally speak up about it
You can't say this just to follow up with
the whole “rapping about your personal experience vs. glorifying the streets” discussion is completely separate from this tbh.
Because it's not separate, it's actually all the same. Yall are commenting on this with "stan brain" so of course you'll have this take. I'm commenting on this from "teaching 3rd graders brain" and seeing exactly what the music. has. an. effect. on. folks.
Rapping about your lifestyle is glorifying said lifestyle. Rapping about guns or shooting opps (IN PRESENT TENSE) is glorifying the task of guns and/or shooting opps. These folks are not talking about the streets from a "cautionary" perspective ala Hov did on H to the Izzo 3rd verse.
Glorifying a lifestyle makes said lifestyle attractive to the average listener. If average listener comes from similar upbringings with no guidance, they will find influence in the music. Unlike movies, music comes from realistic places and realistic names and realistic addresses that these kids can reach, touch even. Crackers "tour" O'Block every f***ing year lol.
And I know on ktt2 we like to act like that isn't true or if someone says that he's #coon or #uncleruckus but at some point, niggas gotta admit C Dolores Tucker mighta been spitting lol.
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMS9J26kctI20:10
so your issue really stems from parents being irresponsible & letting their kids listen to music clearly labeled as explicit / marketing teams shoving that topic down kids’ throats via tiktok & social media
it’s not an issue of the artists making the music, it’s about consumers interpreting their life stories as glorifying violence
so your issue really stems from parents being irresponsible & letting their kids listen to music clearly labeled as explicit / marketing teams shoving that topic down kids’ throats via tiktok & social media
it’s not an issue of the artists making the music, it’s about consumers interpreting their life stories as glorifying violence
Back to the age old “its on the parents” scapegoat lawl this convo is over.
We done man. Niggas aint never gon be free.
Okay but if the rappers do change their topics I still feel like niggas will find a way to complain
I think both sides of this “fuck the streets” thing sound f***ing stupid and thats like the lightest way I can put it
Obviously a lot of it just comes off phony because half these dudes whole image and message has been street s*** and the timing takes away from how genuine it feels but at the same time its funny watching people online who’ve never lost a single thing to the streets wag their finger at people who have taken real losses in life for rapping about rapping about the streets
I honestly just wish we could move on from this unless somebody on either side has an idea for an actual change lol
Okay but if the rappers do change their topics I still feel like niggas will find a way to complain
I think both sides of this “fuck the streets” thing sound f***ing stupid and thats like the lightest way I can put it
Obviously a lot of it just comes off phony because half these dudes whole image and message has been street s*** and the timing takes away from how genuine it feels but at the same time its funny watching people online who’ve never lost a single thing to the streets wag their finger at people who have taken real losses in life for rapping about rapping about the streets
I honestly just wish we could move on from this unless somebody on either side has an idea for an actual change lol
All in all this is another meaningless discourse absolutely nobody on either side will be talking about in 2 weeks
Herbo has rapped about the trauma, the grief, his trials with substance abuse. Some rappers are not as holistic about it
“don’t rap about the streets if you say f*** the streets” - people are going to rap about their experiences, and these artists are from the streets. it’s just willful ignorance to pretend you interpret “fuck the streets” in this way because you already disliked the people saying it & wanted a chance to finally speak up about it
You can't say this just to follow up with
the whole “rapping about your personal experience vs. glorifying the streets” discussion is completely separate from this tbh.
Because it's not separate, it's actually all the same. Yall are commenting on this with "stan brain" so of course you'll have this take. I'm commenting on this from "teaching 3rd graders brain" and seeing exactly what the music. has. an. effect. on. folks.
Rapping about your lifestyle is glorifying said lifestyle. Rapping about guns or shooting opps (IN PRESENT TENSE) is glorifying the task of guns and/or shooting opps. These folks are not talking about the streets from a "cautionary" perspective ala Hov did on H to the Izzo 3rd verse.
Glorifying a lifestyle makes said lifestyle attractive to the average listener. If average listener comes from similar upbringings with no guidance, they will find influence in the music. Unlike movies, music comes from realistic places and realistic names and realistic addresses that these kids can reach, touch even. Crackers "tour" O'Block every f***ing year lol.
And I know on ktt2 we like to act like that isn't true or if someone says that he's #coon or #uncleruckus but at some point, niggas gotta admit C Dolores Tucker mighta been spitting lol.
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMS9J26kctI20:10
Listening to this interview in full i appreciate it
Herbo has rapped about the trauma, the grief, his trials with substance abuse. Some rappers are not as holistic about it
Hes really the one I have a problem with being bunched in
He does glorify the streets sometimes but hes a lot more nuanced in his music than people are giving him credit for. Hes been rapping sentiments like this since like 2016
You could have done this thread without boosie fam
Boosie sparking this discussion instantly hampers it, this nigga is a terrible person on every level, metaphysical, spiritual, sea level, eye level, off balance spirit level
I'll try to engage with it as if boosie isn't a factor because the boosie thing is just for added clicks on the thread surely & making it about him would detract from the actual discussion
We/they do need to see these rappers to actually put substance and actual change behind this idea for it to mean something
We/they do need to see folks who glorify hard d**** & then mourn an overdose rapper death actually commit to change
We/they do need to be able to have the discussion that folks get encouraged to have after someone dies but it's not the right time to have it as we are mourning
We/they need to understand that some people are more susceptible to internalising bad influences (for a plethora of reasons, e.g. isolation, poverty, desperation)
Yes, we/they need to get ahead of all of these things
Let me add we also demand this type of music as an audience. Rapping about violence and stuff to us as the consumer is exciting and drama filled and it scratches the same itch as a crime movie or something (Which usually has the same issue) younger ppl crave rebellion you know
Que the jokes ppl make whenever theres an artist who raps actually raps in a positive way abt topics not just kendrick but even lil durk when he tried to do uplifting music . People just don't want it
Let’s rap about revolution. It’s about due for a cycle isn’t it?
Everything is corny nowadays so it'll probably never happen
Hes really the one I have a problem with being bunched in
He does glorify the streets sometimes but hes a lot more nuanced in his music than people are giving him credit for. Hes been rapping sentiments like this since like 2016
Yeah, he's got perspective on it. And 21 Savage always sounded like a cartoon character.
There are street rappers who diss dead people. But they aren't famous enough for this "movement"
Let me add we also demand this type of music as an audience. Rapping about violence and stuff to us as the consumer is exciting and drama filled and it scratches the same itch as a crime movie or something (Which usually has the same issue) younger ppl crave rebellion you know
Que the jokes ppl make whenever theres an artist who raps actually raps in a positive way abt topics not just kendrick but even lil durk when he tried to do uplifting music . People just don't want it
When ppl do the “nO oNe CoMpLaiNs AbOuT TeRmiNaToR” argument that every rapper been doing since 1993, i think folks think the general public is stupid.
Arnold wasnt standing in front of /real/ neighborhoods calling the audience a p**** for not repping the /real/ set of whatever neighborhood he was in.
Freddy Krueger isnt yelling out the names of /real/ teenage boys that have /really/ died in the street life.
We really and I mean REALLY gotta stop conflating the two. Movies dont tend to imitate real life, the nigga rapping to you does.
But one valid point @kurapika_20 made (and why @sab doing the “it’s the parents” playbook is hilariously dishonest) is that kids do rebel.
One of the biggest rappers on here yall all collectively d***suck, for all intents and purposes, came from a good home! That side of Atlanta is not the hood. bro “hopped off the porch” out of spite yo lololololol.
Hella street rappers that by their own admission had great parents man lol you acting like yall never rebeled against yall parents
But one valid point @kurapika_20 made (and why @sab doing the “it’s the parents” playbook is hilariously dishonest) is that kids do rebel.
One of the biggest rappers on here yall all collectively d***suck, for all intents and purposes, came from a good home! That side of Atlanta is not the hood. bro “hopped off the porch” out of spite yo lololololol.
Hella street rappers that by their own admission had great parents man lol you acting like yall never rebeled against yall parents
tbh it’s not the parents as much as exploitative marketing teams, because there’s only so much a parent can do to protect their kids, but also, that stuff gets marketed directly to kids
RAP ABOUT FRUITS
All he do fr