Nov 30, 2025·edited·5 replies
Silasreal reason is Marco Rubio's personal grudge against Maduro.
He doesn't like Maduro's influence on Cuba (his homeland) and hates Latin dictators in general.
Now that he's secretary of state, he most likely got into Trump's ear and convinced him to do this and they're doing it under the guise of "stopping d****".
The other big reason is China's influence with Venezula.
China loans Venezula billion of dollars and provides political support for the Maduro government. They have huge influence on Venezula so it's also a good preemptive strike to combat China's influence.
US and China relations haven't been the best in recent years.
Marco having a personal grudge is not the real reason as to why this is happening. During Trump's first term he tried to overthrow Maduro and failed. Marco was not in his administration during that time.
This is about oil and the fact that since America placed sanctions on Venezuela they moved towards China (As you stated), Russia and Iran for support. They don't want their influence (and possibly weapons) so close to the US.
Maria Corina Machado (the Nobel Peace Prize winner) offered Trump 1.7 trillion dollars in oil, gold, gas and infrastructure to topple the Maduro regime and install her as the leader. This is all about power in the region and money for Trump and the US.
I don't know if Trump is really going to attack Venezuela. I think that is a last resort. Right now he is trying to pressure Maduro to leave voluntarily. It has been reported that he and Trump spoke last week and Maduro was trying to get amnesty for himself, family members and others. Trump put a 50 million dollar bounty on his head. He might just fold. Or, he may give in to all of Trumps demands in order to stay in power.
"BREAKING: During secret talks with the Trump Administration, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro reportedly offered major concessions — opening all oil & gold projects to U.S. companies, cutting ties with China, Iran & Russia, and redirecting exports to America.
The U.S. rejected the deal and has now halted all diplomatic negotiations with Venezuela, NYT reports."
Nov 30, 2025·1 replyJugern0t· editedMarco having a personal grudge is not the real reason as to why this is happening. During Trump's first term he tried to overthrow Maduro and failed. Marco was not in his administration during that time.
This is about oil and the fact that since America placed sanctions on Venezuela they moved towards China (As you stated), Russia and Iran for support. They don't want their influence (and possibly weapons) so close to the US.
Maria Corina Machado (the Nobel Peace Prize winner) offered Trump 1.7 trillion dollars in oil, gold, gas and infrastructure to topple the Maduro regime and install her as the leader. This is all about power in the region and money for Trump and the US.
I don't know if Trump is really going to attack Venezuela. I think that is a last resort. Right now he is trying to pressure Maduro to leave voluntarily. It has been reported that he and Trump spoke last week and Maduro was trying to get amnesty for himself, family members and others. Trump put a 50 million dollar bounty on his head. He might just fold. Or, he may give in to all of Trumps demands in order to stay in power.
https://x.com/DefenceIndex/status/1976689050489942286?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1976689050489942286%7Ctwgr%5E915543490dd1b85ef88b9f06db419bd26c9ece1d%7Ctwcon%5Es1&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwearemitu.com%2Fwearemitu%2Fnews%2Fnicolas-maduro-offered-venezuela-oil-gold-us-avoid-intervention%2F
"BREAKING: During secret talks with the Trump Administration, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro reportedly offered major concessions — opening all oil & gold projects to U.S. companies, cutting ties with China, Iran & Russia, and redirecting exports to America.
The U.S. rejected the deal and has now halted all diplomatic negotiations with Venezuela, NYT reports."
- Nov 30, 2025·edited·1 replyRockstard
https://unherd.com/2025/10/how-miami-hawks-hijacked-trumps-foreign-policy/
Paywalled. Please give me a breakdown of what this article is about. From the little I gathered yes Marco is supporting this, but he is not the end be all and end all. Trump tried a regime change in his first stint and failed.
- Nov 30, 2025Jugern0t
Paywalled. Please give me a breakdown of what this article is about. From the little I gathered yes Marco is supporting this, but he is not the end be all and end all. Trump tried a regime change in his first stint and failed.
- Nov 30, 2025Jugern0t· edited
Marco having a personal grudge is not the real reason as to why this is happening. During Trump's first term he tried to overthrow Maduro and failed. Marco was not in his administration during that time.
This is about oil and the fact that since America placed sanctions on Venezuela they moved towards China (As you stated), Russia and Iran for support. They don't want their influence (and possibly weapons) so close to the US.
Maria Corina Machado (the Nobel Peace Prize winner) offered Trump 1.7 trillion dollars in oil, gold, gas and infrastructure to topple the Maduro regime and install her as the leader. This is all about power in the region and money for Trump and the US.
I don't know if Trump is really going to attack Venezuela. I think that is a last resort. Right now he is trying to pressure Maduro to leave voluntarily. It has been reported that he and Trump spoke last week and Maduro was trying to get amnesty for himself, family members and others. Trump put a 50 million dollar bounty on his head. He might just fold. Or, he may give in to all of Trumps demands in order to stay in power.
https://x.com/DefenceIndex/status/1976689050489942286?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1976689050489942286%7Ctwgr%5E915543490dd1b85ef88b9f06db419bd26c9ece1d%7Ctwcon%5Es1&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwearemitu.com%2Fwearemitu%2Fnews%2Fnicolas-maduro-offered-venezuela-oil-gold-us-avoid-intervention%2F
"BREAKING: During secret talks with the Trump Administration, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro reportedly offered major concessions — opening all oil & gold projects to U.S. companies, cutting ties with China, Iran & Russia, and redirecting exports to America.
The U.S. rejected the deal and has now halted all diplomatic negotiations with Venezuela, NYT reports."
Yes, Trump tried to overthrow him before but it never involved direct military action.
They both hate Maduro but Marco Rubio's hatred is deeper and as secretary of state, he's mainly responsible for foreign policy. This military campaign is mostly him.
Oil is definitely a part of this too but it's not the main reason.
Maduro has already offered Venezula's oil and he even allegedly offered to cut ties with China and Russia but Trump rejected the offer last month (October).
"Trump has turned aside Maduro's offer of access to Venezuela's rich oil reserves in exchange for maintaining power in the country. Instead, his administration has gone all-in on a campaign led by Rubio to force Maduro from office."
"Rubio's rejection of Maduro's oil concessions upset U.S. energy interests eager to tap Venezuelan reserves.
usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/30/trump-marco-rubio-maduro-venezuela-war/86930242007
Nov 30, 2025·1 replyJugern0t· editedMarco having a personal grudge is not the real reason as to why this is happening. During Trump's first term he tried to overthrow Maduro and failed. Marco was not in his administration during that time.
This is about oil and the fact that since America placed sanctions on Venezuela they moved towards China (As you stated), Russia and Iran for support. They don't want their influence (and possibly weapons) so close to the US.
Maria Corina Machado (the Nobel Peace Prize winner) offered Trump 1.7 trillion dollars in oil, gold, gas and infrastructure to topple the Maduro regime and install her as the leader. This is all about power in the region and money for Trump and the US.
I don't know if Trump is really going to attack Venezuela. I think that is a last resort. Right now he is trying to pressure Maduro to leave voluntarily. It has been reported that he and Trump spoke last week and Maduro was trying to get amnesty for himself, family members and others. Trump put a 50 million dollar bounty on his head. He might just fold. Or, he may give in to all of Trumps demands in order to stay in power.
https://x.com/DefenceIndex/status/1976689050489942286?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1976689050489942286%7Ctwgr%5E915543490dd1b85ef88b9f06db419bd26c9ece1d%7Ctwcon%5Es1&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwearemitu.com%2Fwearemitu%2Fnews%2Fnicolas-maduro-offered-venezuela-oil-gold-us-avoid-intervention%2F
"BREAKING: During secret talks with the Trump Administration, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro reportedly offered major concessions — opening all oil & gold projects to U.S. companies, cutting ties with China, Iran & Russia, and redirecting exports to America.
The U.S. rejected the deal and has now halted all diplomatic negotiations with Venezuela, NYT reports."
Great post but Nobel Piece Price is frying me
- Nov 30, 2025RIZGOD
Great post but Nobel Piece Price is frying me
lmao! Correcting now.
Nov 30, 2025·edited·1 replyJugern0tMarco having a personal grudge is not the real reason as to why this is happening. During Trump's first term he tried to overthrow Maduro and failed. Marco was not in his administration during that time.
This is about oil and the fact that since America placed sanctions on Venezuela they moved towards China (As you stated), Russia and Iran for support. They don't want their influence (and possibly weapons) so close to the US.
Maria Corina Machado (the Nobel Peace Prize winner) offered Trump 1.7 trillion dollars in oil, gold, gas and infrastructure to topple the Maduro regime and install her as the leader. This is all about power in the region and money for Trump and the US.
I don't know if Trump is really going to attack Venezuela. I think that is a last resort. Right now he is trying to pressure Maduro to leave voluntarily. It has been reported that he and Trump spoke last week and Maduro was trying to get amnesty for himself, family members and others. Trump put a 50 million dollar bounty on his head. He might just fold. Or, he may give in to all of Trumps demands in order to stay in power.
https://x.com/DefenceIndex/status/1976689050489942286?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1976689050489942286%7Ctwgr%5E915543490dd1b85ef88b9f06db419bd26c9ece1d%7Ctwcon%5Es1&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwearemitu.com%2Fwearemitu%2Fnews%2Fnicolas-maduro-offered-venezuela-oil-gold-us-avoid-intervention%2F
"BREAKING: During secret talks with the Trump Administration, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro reportedly offered major concessions — opening all oil & gold projects to U.S. companies, cutting ties with China, Iran & Russia, and redirecting exports to America.
The U.S. rejected the deal and has now halted all diplomatic negotiations with Venezuela, NYT reports."
You’re overlooking how obsessed Rubio is with Latin America.
Marco wasn’t in the admin, but he’s always been one of the top Senate Foreign Relations and Senate Intelligence Committee members. They were working lockstep with the administration on Venezuela policy back then.
Rubio was the top Senate guy on this. He’s never not been intimately involved, which is part of why he’s now Sec of State and NSA
Menendez, the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, has applauded Rubio’s ability to influence the administration to take a strong position on Venezuela, but the two are in deep disagreement on how involved the United States should be.
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Rubio has been in close contact with the administration on Venezuela, even being the key architect, working alongside Bolton on the U.S.’s plan to back Guaido, according to individuals familiar with the administration’s policy-making.
Nov 30, 2025·1 reply
SweJabWhat is the conspiracy/real reason as to why America is attacking venezuela?
Never gets old
- Nov 30, 2025
The oil argument is a factor, but that's not really a convincing reason to do this in 2025. There were other energy deals that could feasibly be made or taken advantage down the line. This isn't a pressing national security issue.
Rubio is arguably the main figure behind the last 10 years of Venezuela policy. He has a personal gripe that overlaps with China, Russia, the eventual shift towards Cuba, knocking down other LatAm states, etc.. None of this right now is a whole-of-nation effort. Its isolated moves by a few key members. Rubio wants this to be his personal legacy that maybe he'll run on one day,
Its not like Trump thinks up this stuff on his own. He sees a strong man of a weak country, failed to take him down, and wants another shot. He was lured with business propositions by Rubio, opposition leaders, etc... because that's how you maintain his interest
- Nov 30, 2025YANDHI
You’re overlooking how obsessed Rubio is with Latin America.
Marco wasn’t in the admin, but he’s always been one of the top Senate Foreign Relations and Senate Intelligence Committee members. They were working lockstep with the administration on Venezuela policy back then.
Rubio was the top Senate guy on this. He’s never not been intimately involved, which is part of why he’s now Sec of State and NSA
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-01/marco-rubio-to-meet-venezuela-s-guaido-in-miami-after-rally?embedded-checkout=true
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/bipartisan-venezuela-legislation-fizzles-over-use-military-force-n968581
Menendez, the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, has applauded Rubio’s ability to influence the administration to take a strong position on Venezuela, but the two are in deep disagreement on how involved the United States should be.
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Rubio has been in close contact with the administration on Venezuela, even being the key architect, working alongside Bolton on the U.S.’s plan to back Guaido, according to individuals familiar with the administration’s policy-making.
No, you guys are right. I didn't understand how badly Rubio has been pushing this. The UnHerd article and the USA Today one opened my eyes. Without Rubio Trump would have likely just accepted Maduro's concessions and left it at that.
Dec 1, 2025Who geeves a fuk about chreeesmas
Dec 2, 2025Jugern0tMarco having a personal grudge is not the real reason as to why this is happening. During Trump's first term he tried to overthrow Maduro and failed. Marco was not in his administration during that time.
This is about oil and the fact that since America placed sanctions on Venezuela they moved towards China (As you stated), Russia and Iran for support. They don't want their influence (and possibly weapons) so close to the US.
Maria Corina Machado (the Nobel Peace Prize winner) offered Trump 1.7 trillion dollars in oil, gold, gas and infrastructure to topple the Maduro regime and install her as the leader. This is all about power in the region and money for Trump and the US.
I don't know if Trump is really going to attack Venezuela. I think that is a last resort. Right now he is trying to pressure Maduro to leave voluntarily. It has been reported that he and Trump spoke last week and Maduro was trying to get amnesty for himself, family members and others. Trump put a 50 million dollar bounty on his head. He might just fold. Or, he may give in to all of Trumps demands in order to stay in power.
https://x.com/DefenceIndex/status/1976689050489942286?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1976689050489942286%7Ctwgr%5E915543490dd1b85ef88b9f06db419bd26c9ece1d%7Ctwcon%5Es1&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwearemitu.com%2Fwearemitu%2Fnews%2Fnicolas-maduro-offered-venezuela-oil-gold-us-avoid-intervention%2F
"BREAKING: During secret talks with the Trump Administration, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro reportedly offered major concessions — opening all oil & gold projects to U.S. companies, cutting ties with China, Iran & Russia, and redirecting exports to America.
The U.S. rejected the deal and has now halted all diplomatic negotiations with Venezuela, NYT reports."
He won't fold lol
- Dec 2, 2025!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXnkFd373T4Flubber
Never gets old
Every clip from that show is gold
- Dec 2, 2025·1 reply
Likely related to Venezuela
Dec 2, 2025·1 replyAlways appreciate your threads & posts @op you are a great poster
- Dec 2, 2025Walt Disney
Always appreciate your threads & posts @op you are a great poster
New member
Dec 2, 2025Venezuela’s oil is like the worst oil in the world there’s just a lot of it lol. Venezuela has suffered the “resource curse” when it could’ve been the Norway of South America. They discovered oil before they had a stable government and trustworthy institutions, so the oil shaped the institutions.
- Dec 2, 2025·1 reply
- Dec 2, 2025·3 replieshttps://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1995683777855848950Bo Ceephus
Likely related to Venezuela
Bro someone put grandpa to fkn bed already
- Dec 2, 2025Rockstard
Bro someone put grandpa to fkn bed already
https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1995926268823699919
we are a laughing stock 
Dec 2, 2025RockstardBro someone put grandpa to fkn bed already
https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1995926268823699919He's awake, he's just resting his eyes from all the hard work he has done for us
Dec 2, 2025·2 repliesRockstardBro someone put grandpa to fkn bed already
https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1995926268823699919
:trumpsleep:- Dec 2, 2025mjpplus
:trumpsleep: 
Dec 2, 2025·2 repliesWill be interesting to see how the Tennessee special election goes tonight
Obviously not expecting the GOP to lose, but the margin will be interesting
