@CutiePieHole hey Lamont, do you wanna do a grounders meet up and go together perchance?

you literally said she IS being used as a prop but now you’re saying she COULD be?

she isn’t an hateful human being

but yet she endorses hateful ideologies because she’s in a fued with her billionaire baby daddy

yeah but she made world town

She is being used as a prop as in a set up . She hasn’t been in 10 years . She is finally co chair . They could choose any sponsor . S*** for the 10 million she could sponsor it herself and have no worry . They set her up bad with Bezos as sponsor . She likely knew before us . So now it’s does she drop out and send a message and possibly never have a chance at gala again , does she request a new sponsor . I am saying no matter what in it’s current form yes the Beyoncé effect could have her viewed as a prop to “ normalize Bezos “ even if I disagree with the idea of normalizing and say throughout that thread . I say making money with someone or him sponsoring doesn’t mean proxy morals or she supports his beliefs

Which is the same thing I’m saying with MIA but she makes 0$ from talking about Trump and isn’t paid by Trump or anyone close to Trump

What hateful ideas does she endorse ? By saying she likes Trump doesn’t mean she supports the hatred he emits when again she has called all that out

Gotta be honest, I had no idea MIA had people who defend her the same way they defend Kanye

Like this s*** is new to me

none of this matters and who cares about her personal ideas or feelings when she’s objectively pushing reactionary politics

It all started around 2017, the beginning of the Trump era, around then she met Jesus Christ

she said he changed her life (I guess for the worse)

I am asking you specifically what is she pushing her being anti vax , anti surveillance state you got it . Her endorsing rfk then later saying she likes Trump more than Kamala I see the danger

“ reactionary politics “ and “ hateful ideologies “ when I’m asking you to specifically articulate is fluff

so were pharrell, rocky, and colman domingo considered props last year when the sponsor was LV (when the head bernald arnault is just as bad as bezos) or are we selectively choosing for obvious reasons?

even worse she’s a born-again Christian who says she met Jesus Christ

I remember when she announced that back in 2017 or whatever she said progressives would turn against her so that was like the beginning of her spiral down the right wing pipeline

yeah i specially mentioned it, anti-immigration and hence taunting ur audience about them being illegal isnt a “politics of love” (useless phrase) or a sign of love emitting from her

u deliberately ignored the reactionary poltics i pointed out and then posited her other reactionary positions as a gotcha ya?

her endorsing RFK in and of itself is hateful because he literally said black children would be better off working in farms, not to mention all the other s*** hes said

I just said endorsement it working with people doesn’t mean you hold all the same beliefs but beyonce , ye , Mia and many others I see how it can be viewed

She isn’t anti immigration we’ve spent this entire thread making clear how out of context the comment was

It’s not taunting the audience to say it wouldn’t be the time to do a song that has people considered illegal to be chanting in illegal . She said she is illegal . Her dancers were blocked and she invited her audience on stage we’ve been over this

The artist that created the song borders isn’t anti immigration . She is saying even if ever made a citizen some will always view us including herself as illegal . Even if visa some will always consider us illegal .

This is the song she said she was introducing

this is like saying kanye can’t be a nazi because he made crack music

She has in no way said anything anti immigration even in this case . Her use of the word illegal is what bothered people when the song illygrl is essentially about defying the derogatory nature of calling someone illegal

while i do think she was somewhat joking with the whole illegal thing at the show and people are misunderstanding her, it’s still a s***ty and tone deaf joke to make considering everything going on and how people are right now.

doesn’t help that she has yet to fully denounce RFK and she’s on her christian s***

i liked both posts btw

I genuinely don’t think it was a joke . I think she means although she wanted to do a song about receiving the word due to back up dancers visas being declined. She can’t in good Weill do it because of optics of having people considered illegal chanting along to it . She kind of makes that clear in saying “ they always view us as illegal “ as in being immigrant is viewed as lesser . I don’t think she ever meant it as an insult or a joke . I think that especially made clear when she invited the audience to on stage that she has love for people in crowd . They were right next to her no security and people acting like she views them as lessers . It’s more her tell support in any form she kind of has to address because people will link it to his policy on immigration. If she struggled to get a visa including even under Trump presidency and she has complained about that system . I don’t grasp what makes people think she supports Trump administration of America at all in that regard