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  • May 14, 2022
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    scoop

    i think he has shown in his earlier music that he was interested but no longer feels like he has the power to influence a real change to the status quo. when you feel truly powerless what can you focus on other than yourself? i think thats what hes been grappling with on the heart v, this album and probably the last 5-7 years as a whole.

    That wasn't about Kendrick lol

    But yeah i do understand why he feels drained tho rn, maybe he just needed to take a step back and he'll find a balance later on, maybe it's just who he is right now, that's why i wonder what comes next could go either way and that's why his next album will be very interesting i think

  • May 14, 2022
    Replica

    Seems like the black intellectual scene has been in crisis for a while

    The legacy of cointelpro and similar f***ery all over the world

  • eye contact

    No they’re not

    chase a bag don't worry bout what I'm doing

    -blueface the savior 🙏 🙌

  • May 14, 2022

    Banger post

    Haven't listened to the album yet but I really liked the section about Noname and Kendrick feeling like he has to choose between being a savior or focusing on himself. Plus, I'm not gonna pretend like I listen to Kendrick all that much so it's nice to see where his headspace was at on TPAB and DAMN.

    Thanks for the informative, high quality post, comrade

  • May 14, 2022
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    Yuzzy

    Zizeks understanding of Buddhism is lacking imo

    Is it his understanding or the understanding of the buddhists he's talking about? Either way it's a manifestation of buddhism that we see in the real world

  • May 14, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    That wasn't about Kendrick lol

    But yeah i do understand why he feels drained tho rn, maybe he just needed to take a step back and he'll find a balance later on, maybe it's just who he is right now, that's why i wonder what comes next could go either way and that's why his next album will be very interesting i think

    oh my b if it wasnt about kendrick, but yeah in a general sense i definitely agree with what you’re saying lol

  • May 14, 2022
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    SegaDreamFlash

    @Scratchin_Bandit @krishna_bound this talk about the “hero’s journey” is interesting and not even trying to troll or sound ignorant when I say this but it kind of reminded me of when Folks on here was talking about Malcolm leaving the NOI after becoming disillusioned with Elijah Muhammad and what not lol

    It’s like no matter the context narratively we ever someone reaches the top they get jaded or have some realization or something

    I think with Malcolm specifically it also had to do with genuine disillusionment from finding out how s*** in the NOI wasn't really like he thought it was, and learning more about actual islam

    But you're right tho, it's a common trope when you reach the top or accomplish something you often realize that it really wasn't all that you told yourself it was going to be, holds true in many areas of life

  • rvi 🦜
    May 14, 2022

    shoutout to all the commies

  • May 14, 2022

    @op i disagree with your conclusion but this was a quality post. Appreciate the effort and a***ysis

  • Scratchin Mamba

    I think with Malcolm specifically it also had to do with genuine disillusionment from finding out how s*** in the NOI wasn't really like he thought it was, and learning more about actual islam

    But you're right tho, it's a common trope when you reach the top or accomplish something you often realize that it really wasn't all that you told yourself it was going to be, holds true in many areas of life

    Yeah circumstances are different but it’s something I always noticed. Like when MLK was really denouncing capitalism and such in his last days and what not.

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    May 14, 2022
    NICEMAN

    That's crazy, because I honestly believe that is one of the best rap albums that will ever drop during my life Did he say it wasn't accessible enough during that same DAMN pressrun interview where he ranked the albums?

    He ranked his albums like this
    36:53

  • May 14, 2022

    I don’t think Kendricks ideals and similar ideals are ever as binary as people like to stage them.

    Even when he made those comments after Micheal Brown. It’s not stop killing each other to make police respect us.

    It’s stop killing each other first so the community as a unit can be better suited to challenge the oppressive systems. It’s one step in a long process.

    At the end of the day Kendrick is just a human being like everybody itt.

    Just because he makes great music that touches on the issues in our society doesn’t make him a catalyst for change, regardless of the imagery he uses or the figures he evokes. That’s just part of the music like other rappers talking about their imaginary oops.

    With help, he could be a voice for something greater, but no one tries to teach anymore. They would rather attack and deride his character for the views that his life shaped. Which is the problem with the s*** Noname said and the problem of a lot of other Twitter activists.

    It’s annoying behavior and probably fueled Kendrick wording his feeling so bluntly on Mirror. In spite of that I don’t believe Kendrick is abandoning society completely, just taking time to himself to cultivate a healthy environment for his family.

  • May 14, 2022

    So basically noname better

  • May 14, 2022
    Ooo

    Like I said if it were genuine and he didn’t literally bring up these things in almost every thread then sure. I asked him how to get reform when he said earlier reform was something that needed to happen. No response. Because these things have said and done many times and the solution of simply reform is not that simple. Like Kendrick hasn’t thought of these things already. If it were almost any other user making this thread then that’s absolutely fine. But I’m not gonna act like there’s not a group of users here who just “gimmick” being some freedom fighter or are apart of some communist regime. It’s annoying and I wouldn’t even really care but don’t try to call out Kendrick with this bullshit.

    I don’t think him posting about marxism in every thread makes it less genuine, people like to talk about stuff they enjoy we all do, yeah it get annoying like 30% of life threads turning into capitalism vs socialism but i don’t get how that can determine someone how genuine someone is whether Op posted about these topics before or never ever it would still be the same level of genuinity.

    Unless you don’t think he’s genuine due to him ignoring on “how to get reforms” but i don’t think OP has to respond to every post i seen many he hasn’t, and on getting reform the stately is gonna change depending on the reform and where there isn’t any dogmatic way to get reforms. OP from netherlands and sorry if i’m wrong ur from America he can’t tell you how to get reforms or answer ur question cause he doesn’t live in America and evaluate how to get the desired reform only people in America can figure that out for themselves.

    I don’t think anyone is using this to discredit Kendrick and his influence or s*** on Kendrick at all or act like they know kendrick. While Kendrick and his life is talked about in OP and discussed that’s the secondary discussion, the primary and main discussion the whole point of the thread was just showcasing of how having a great man theory interpretation of history won’t lead to political change and using Kendrick music and his public life an example up to this point and people disagreed with him that’s fine, they even provided great points.

    It’s fine to hate the commie clique i can see why, but i don’t understand how this is a call out post no one is calling out Kendrick, OP never made any value judgement that Kendrick is “lesser” now due to being tired off politics

    Also i haven’t read this thread in a while i’m at work so if OP did some s*** that contradicts what i post here, we’ll all thet typed out for nothing

  • May 14, 2022
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    Yuzzy

    Voltaire was right. Learn to hunt and farm, and live apart from society, or with like minded people.

    was he?

  • May 14, 2022

    Stfu boomer

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    DonutHole

    there's truth to it but it stops when we're dealing with societal issues

    also this feels like what jordan peterson peddled years ago
    "keep your room clean!"

    or what voltaire said centuries ago about taking care of your own garden

    in the end, you're left with a nice backyard and house but society is still a capitalist mess which means you're gonna have to worry about those less fortunate than you, or anyone trying to take away your nice garden and house, congrats you're probably a republican now

    buddhism and other philosophies surely have good takes on how to improve yourself/environnement, look there

    idk why we keep falling for this bs (take care of yourself and nothing else will matter), it's a lie

    Well u cant really blame people for wanting to control the things they feel like they can control (their personal goals and the impact they have on their direct surroundings) instead of focusing on bigger societal chances when it feels like pretty much all options besides a full blown revolution are tired and useless

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    Well u cant really blame people for wanting to control the things they feel like they can control (their personal goals and the impact they have on their direct surroundings) instead of focusing on bigger societal chances when it feels like pretty much all options besides a full blown revolution are tired and useless

    I dont "blame" people for feeling like that

    I do however criticize kdot (famous artist with ressources) for ending it on that note after a 5 year hiatus on his album

  • May 14, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    If you're only gonna be concerned with your own welbeing, that's your perogative, but the premise that you either have to choose between your own welbeing or the world around you is nothing but a lie you tell yourself to avoid the moral question of only being concerned with yourself. And besides that, if you're just gonna be concerned with yourself, why tf would you care about what I'm occupying myself with? Sounds like it's just a whole lotta mental gymnastics to cover for the fact that you're simply not interested in changing the current order in the first place, just say that instead it would be a lot more respectable.

    Isn’t this criticism predicated on the idea that we know what he’s doing next, what type of music he’s making etc?

    “Focus on me and nothing else” seems conclusive but it doesn’t necessarily have to be his logical endpoint. For all we know he has more planned.

    Kendrick is almost 35 with has many, many years and contradictions to unpack. I’m glad he dedicated an album to this. It’s totally possible that the next Kendrick era is gonna better represent the “endgame.” At least that’s what I’m hoping for.

  • May 14, 2022
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    DonutHole

    I dont "blame" people for feeling like that

    I do however criticize kdot (famous artist with ressources) for ending it on that note after a 5 year hiatus on his album

    Why

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    rather late

    Why

    we've had this discussion already on earlier pages
    or just read the op of this thread

  • May 14, 2022
    Wiggler

    Isn’t this criticism predicated on the idea that we know what he’s doing next, what type of music he’s making etc?

    “Focus on me and nothing else” seems conclusive but it doesn’t necessarily have to be his logical endpoint. For all we know he has more planned.

    Kendrick is almost 35 with has many, many years and contradictions to unpack. I’m glad he dedicated an album to this. It’s totally possible that the next Kendrick era is gonna better represent the “endgame.” At least that’s what I’m hoping for.

    That wasn't directed at Kendrick lmao, but I agree, that's why I said that I'm curious about how his mindset will evolve over time, I don't see him going on with this mindset for much longer honestly, and his mindset had continually shifted throughout his career anyway

  • May 14, 2022
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    DonutHole

    we've had this discussion already on earlier pages
    or just read the op of this thread

    I read the OP
    I kind of agree
    But i completely understand kendrick lol that man has his own trauma to unpack and doesnt own yall s***

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