This vid is a great counterpoint to the thread.

I like that Davis talks about the collective nature of self-care.

"Collective self-care" is a beautiful phrase that points out how the individual and the social are not separate things, but mixed up with each other. Individuality arises out of a social situation that individualises. It doesn't make sense to choose one or the other.

As opposed to Kendrick's presumption that self care is all about retreating from the world.

Which i think is made worse in the album because of the Eckhart Tolle samples/interludes. Tolle, despite his buddhist influences, also seems to only imagine self-care and improvement in an individualistic mode, which hides the structural forces that produce so much suffering and trauma.

It’s really not

i think ur tacking something on to op's argument that isn't there

I think people in this thread have it twisted. Kendrick is no savior but he has done what he could to play his part

No one expects entertainers to be social workers, at least no one should.

What an artist or entertainer should do is use their art to start conversations and Kendrick has definitely done that.

Kendrick has also inspired social workers and the next generation through his music.

He’s making a big impact wether people see it or not.

It’s silly to think anyone SHOULD be leading the front line during a war to be considered an asset. there’s a dozen ways to make an impact.

@DonutHole ethering as usual lol

I disagree with that point as well I’m more in the camp that we are not entitled to anything from Kendrick but I do hear some solipsism in in the record and I appreciate others wit difference of opinion. It’s fun

^ which noname does

well thank god she's doing that

woo, knowing if a nigga made that tweet this would've never have been even a discussion is the funniest part about all this lol.

looool thank u fam
op, u and some other posters made this thread interesting too

I think it’s silly that people even looked at Kendrick as a savior in the first place

Can’t help the world unless you help yourself first.

Honestly I think his new individualist approach is way more effective than his past efforts.

I do think there is some resentment in that tho, building up since damn when he said "who the f*** praying for me?", and the verse @ noname too, "i cant please everybody", all his talk about political correctness and what not

But i also believe he's genuinely sorry for choosing himself, there's real sorrow there too

It's not either or

the fact that an album of his is inspiring an actual serious discussion of what the Black agenda should be or could be on ktt2 is a reflection of his social impact
Someone like Drake drops an album and all we care about is how he dissed Ye and the fact that he came out as a lesbian

I guess the ego hurt now
It's time to go to work, wow, look at him go
He really 'bout to write about me when the world is in smokes?

shoutout to climate change this s*** even more valid now.

he did it first lmfao

Yep, the false dichotomy of self-improvement and solidarity is one of the biggest lies we've been told

this is what annoys me about the noname debacle

yes actions speak louder than words but that doesnt undermine what kendrick has done

the way hes bringing this subsection of black culture to the forefront of mass media and doing it with nuance and respect should be admired on its own

Kendrick needs a hug and a copy Of “What is to be Done”

Eh i wouldnt exactly say that.. i don't agree with her stances on voting blue no matter who either, but unless u mean smth else i dont think she's rly a sellout

But why fall for that BS though lol he’s an artist

The most we should be is inspired — anything beyond inspiration (worship, idolizing, believing that he really is a savior because he said so) is silly

Exactly

A collective is made up of individuals. How will it improve if it’s parts do not?