Sleeze

2y

Ahhh f*** me. You just made the whole connection

WT777

2y

Shoulda been used for cutaway updating you on the war at most, shutting the matrix down was disgusting

And also sidelining ppl like morpheus for characters like the kid and the general was inexusable

deleteduser579

2y

yoooo i got that feeling too

nigga Morpheus went from one of the key figures in the first two movies to essentially being a civilian

OGLeveledUp

2y

What was it that drake posted and deleted on ig ?

Vile

2y

Trump Vance 2024

WT777

2y

Them rushing to wrap up the matrix stuff at beginning led to such an undeserved escape from limbo for neo

Merovingian asks for the oracles eyes like damn this is going interesting places, then trinity's just like "nope" and draws guns, and suddenly news freed

deleteduser579

2y

that Trinity scene was lowkey hard though

it does kinda cheapen everything they did to get there though, esp since she literally gets clapped later in the movie they could’ve ran a little subplot with that

wonder how the dynamic would’ve played between Smith and Trinity + friends hunting after the Oracle

LongLiveHipHop

2y

Courtesy of @RangerFan9903

WT777

2y

You tag him as if he d even show his face in this thread without winters permission

WT777

2y

Imagine them having to sneak around the matrix with smith's everywhere

Damn so many sick possibilities we coulda gotten a reloaded quality classic

That said I don't hate on it AS MUCH these days cuz if I'm just comparing it to other action movies ans not against the matrix movies it still has charm and crazy effects

I just hate that it coulda been so much more, and I think alot of ppl thought that. I know my theater was quiet as he'll when it ended

deleteduser579

2y

yeah i feel like The Matrix as a whole just embodies an aesthetic and a world that can’t be recaptured in other films, they just don’t have the it factor in spite of the flaws

what did you think of the final fight and the ending of Revolutions in general? was it satisfying?

WT777

2y

Smith's unhinged ranting carried it. My thing is it kinda felt lesser after seeing him take on a smith army in reloaded. Couple that with the fact it doesn't seem like neo was even trying to BEAT him made it seem like it was just there cuz it was the end of the movie

I liked the machines hacking into smith through neo but I remember feeling like so much that reloaded set up went unanswered at the end of revolutions, felt like that oracle "I believed" was a slap in the face

Was expecting something more radical, and an explanation of stuff like why tf neo can use powers in real world besides "he's the one!" And all that stuff about there having been hundreds of "the one" in the past ect

What about you? What was your initial thoughts on first watch and have they changed much on most recent rewatch?

SegaDreamFlash

2y

The fact that yall been goin off about the Matrix for like 3 pages and no one tagged Condom Eyes is funny as f*** lmao

NewCopeJustDropped

2y

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She dog walking trump. He mightve met his match.

WT777

2y

Smith's unhinged ranting carried it. My thing is it kinda felt lesser after seeing him take on a smith army in reloaded. Couple that with the fact it doesn't seem like neo was even trying to BEAT him made it seem like it was just there cuz it was the end of the movie

I liked the machines hacking into smith through neo but I remember feeling like so much that reloaded set up went unanswered at the end of revolutions, felt like that oracle "I believed" was a slap in the face

Was expecting something more radical, and an explanation of stuff like why tf neo can use powers in real world besides "he's the one!" And all that stuff about there having been hundreds of "the one" in the past ect

What about you? What was your initial thoughts on first watch and have they changed much on most recent rewatch?

deleteduser579

2y

yeah to differentiate the Smith that Neo ends up fighting, i think that’s where they bring in all that flying and large amounts of clones, i didn’t think of the fight as being sort of tacked on towards the end until you pointed it out, but it definitely does make sense in a way since Neo is sent on a suicide mission to get converted by Smith and then overloaded by the machines

Neo being able to use his powers in the real world didn’t make sense to me on my rewatch either, i think those scenes where he’s able to do that also fuel that whole Matrix within A Matrix fan theory that floats around sometimes albeit iirc the Wachowskis came out themselves and said that it wasn’t true i don’t think there’s really a plausible explanation for it

the previous Ones kind of get reduced to a homogenous group of people who made the same choice (ya know, preserve Zion but reboot the Matrix) and we unfortunately never exactly learn why they all made the same choice outside of it just being the more “morally” sound one, they just kinda get reduced to a plot device that makes Neo’s choice to save Trinity more impactful in a sense, and i do think it works in a way due to Neo being seemingly more anomalous than previous iterations of The One (I mean The Architect himself even says that he was quicker to catch onto his bullshit than the other ones were, lol) i think there’s a lot of expanding they could’ve done with that s*** as you said

my initial thoughts on the rewatch was i definitely understood why people felt like The Matrix was the best one out of the entire series, it was perfectly balanced with the philosophy, action, the stakes, overall it was very well placed and brilliantly built up from the beginning to end, it was a very novel introduction to the world, Reloaded was done decently but showed some flaws obviously with the philo dumping from The Architect and some sloppy CGI, but it was overall done well. Revolutions was the gravest offender of them all with the pacing, complete loss and incoherence of the plot etc. it seems like they just didn’t really know how to tie up the loose ends of the story up in a satisfying way so they just wrapped it up

definitely have a lot of love for the movies to this day though, there was a lot of religious symbolism that i connected and understood better on my rewatches that i’ll launch into later there was a lot of Christian, Buddhist and Hindu themes, i mean hell Revolutions concludes with a Sanskrit hymn

dabbling with some of the books that inspired The Matrix like Baudrillard’s Simulacra was an eye opener too