now admit the disses are weak
The concept of calling someone gay as a diss which was so prevalent in 90s/early 2000s culture was not peak humanity
If Kendrick gave better fts during morale era no one would have an issue. The heart part 5 was good
The song everyone agrees was better than every song on Mr Morale
The 3rd verse of Ether sealed the deal. Everyone who hates on ether only ever speaks on the first 2
"In '88 you was gettin' chased through your building
Callin' my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was give you a style for you to run with
Smilin' in my face, glad to break bread with the God
Wearin' Jaz' chains, no TECs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars, Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin' with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a p****, a Stan"
Painted the persona Jay Z had presented as fraudulent. No one ever went at Jay like that and thats why it worked
I addressed this. Yeah, he called him phony.
But again, Jay Z.. f***ed his girl.
One of those matters to hip hop fans more than the other
I don't care that much about rappers sleeping with other rappers girls
If all your raps from the last decade were all cap then thats a bigger deal
The whole point of a diss is to rebrand your opponent to their audience
You can’t use “if Cole dropped ether today it wouldn’t be well received” as a knock against Ether is what I’m saying.
I just don’t agree. We all saw how he got treated over the trans bar.
now if you’re making the argument about how it was a different time and yadayada sure
and I accept that, but even then the disses are not that crazy. Jay Z had more substance in his, but Ether became a bop so Nas won.
The 3rd verse of Ether sealed the deal. Everyone who hates on ether only ever speaks on the first 2
"In '88 you was gettin' chased through your building
Callin' my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was give you a style for you to run with
Smilin' in my face, glad to break bread with the God
Wearin' Jaz' chains, no TECs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars, Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin' with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a p****, a Stan"
Painted the persona Jay Z had presented as fraudulent. No one ever went at Jay like that and thats why it worked
The concept of calling someone gay as a diss which was so prevalent in 90s/early 2000s culture was not peak humanity
admit they sucked ass
He painted himself up as hip hops savior his whole career but now he’s not our savior? Even on Family Ties he said he wasn’t taking any prisoners in 2021 (lie) and said the game needs Kendrick to survive but now he’s not our savior?
HYPOCRITE
When he was talking about not being your saviour on that song he was talking about being a spokesperson for societal issues not hip-hop brother.
One of those matters to hip hop fans more than the other
I don't care that much about rappers sleeping with other rappers girls
If all your raps from the last decade were all cap then thats a bigger deal
The whole point of a diss is to rebrand your opponent to their audience
come on man
I just don’t agree. We all saw how he got treated over the trans bar.
now if you’re making the argument about how it was a different time and yadayada sure
and I accept that, but even then the disses are not that crazy. Jay Z had more substance in his, but Ether became a bop so Nas won.
That’s what I mean. Ether wouldn’t hit today if it included some of the same content matter because society has changed. But when Ether dropped back then, everyone knew Nas won.
The concept of calling someone gay as a diss which was so prevalent in 90s/early 2000s culture was not peak humanity
Cock a Fella records is hilarious tho
admit they sucked ass
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
With Hawaiian Sophie fame, kept my name in his music
I just don’t agree. We all saw how he got treated over the trans bar.
now if you’re making the argument about how it was a different time and yadayada sure
and I accept that, but even then the disses are not that crazy. Jay Z had more substance in his, but Ether became a bop so Nas won.
U keep ignoring that those same disses that worked before for the same reason they were scathing back then
It Worked cuz tht sht was crazy
Tht was real life beef sht if you said stuff like that back then
Now it won't work obviously
He painted himself up as hip hops savior his whole career but now he’s not our savior? Even on Family Ties he said he wasn’t taking any prisoners in 2021 (lie) and said the game needs Kendrick to survive but now he’s not our savior?
HYPOCRITE
Savior is about not being a savior to societal issues, something he been acknowledged is a losing battle since TPAB
That’s what I mean. Ether wouldn’t hit today if it included some of the same content matter because society has changed. But when Ether dropped back then, everyone knew Nas won.
Because it was a BOP. The disses weren’t nearly as scathing as Jay’s. Why cant we just say that
Because it was a BOP. The disses weren’t nearly as scathing as Jay’s. Why cant we just say that
Cause they were back then
You evaluating them from your standpoint now. If you weren’t alive back then, you can’t understand it.
Because it was a BOP. The disses weren’t nearly as scathing as Jay’s. Why cant we just say that
But the disses
WERE scathing (for that time)
Y does nort keep ignoring that lmfao
U keep ignoring that those same disses that worked before for the same reason they were scathing back then
It Worked cuz tht sht was crazy
Tht was real life beef sht if you said stuff like that back then
Now it won't work obviously
I acknowledge that being called gay was a bigger deal back then but yall thats nowhere near as deep as what Jay Z did
yall got me feeling crazy man
Nas attacked him with every angle
And its important to remember that no one ever heard Nas rap like he did on Ether until Ether
Its why I have confidence that Kendrick will (eventually) give us an entertaining diss even though he isn't technically battle tested
The Jay/Nas parallels here are kinda crazy