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  • Aug 16, 2020
    Delejayn

    Niggas want Kendrick to toss around ideas so bad to fulfill their insecurity about their favorite artist.

    niggas deadass calling us sensitive cause the only evidence for their theory is "dude trust me"

  • Aug 16, 2020
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    Shabazz999

    can you give me a timetable of how long they've been working together? can you even tell me what Baby Keem's first music sounded like in comparison to DAMN. or his music from 2018 to present?

    you can call me over sensitive all you want but you're literally promoting a conspiracy theory started by drake stans last year with the sole purpose of discrediting Kendrick's pen, and until yall start providing some evidence that they "toss ideas around" (the only evidence that exists is a reference track by Kendrick FOR keem) then imma keep calling yall on your bullshit

    no you need to reread my initial posts because that is not what i am doing at all

    what the f*** does this have to do with damn? I never once mentioned damn because that s*** is literally a meme people say on here, im trying to have an actual serious discussion about the creative process

    no sane person actually thinks that Keem is out here writing some deep-ass conceptual bars for kendrick I was literally defending the idea of collaboration because CLEARLY as we now see there are really some people who are aggressively against it.

    All i was pointing out is that i see a lot of kendrick stans acting like no one is worthy of being in a studio with him, which is humorous considering kendrick is probably an extremely open-minded artist who values what even the least-celebrated person in the room can bring to the table, because that is how the greats work

  • Aug 16, 2020
    Delejayn

    Niggas want Kendrick to toss around ideas so bad to fulfill their insecurity about their favorite artist.

    you mean to say that people want kendrick lamar to do something completely normal? yea dude f*** them, stupid drake stans amirite

  • Aug 16, 2020
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    hey man relax

    no you need to reread my initial posts because that is not what i am doing at all

    what the f*** does this have to do with damn? I never once mentioned damn because that s*** is literally a meme people say on here, im trying to have an actual serious discussion about the creative process

    no sane person actually thinks that Keem is out here writing some deep-ass conceptual bars for kendrick I was literally defending the idea of collaboration because CLEARLY as we now see there are really some people who are aggressively against it.

    All i was pointing out is that i see a lot of kendrick stans acting like no one is worthy of being in a studio with him, which is humorous considering kendrick is probably an extremely open-minded artist who values what even the least-celebrated person in the room can bring to the table, because that is how the greats work

    I dont think any stans are against the idea of collaboration tbh. That's literally how Kendrick's album process is. Everybody involved comes to the studio in person and it's all a combined effort. Ghostwriting is different from that

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    Laced

    I dont think any stans are against the idea of collaboration tbh. That's literally how Kendrick's album process is. Everybody involved comes to the studio in person and it's all a combined effort. Ghostwriting is different from that

    of course ghostwriting is different than that

    where itt did i mention ghostwriting?

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    hey man relax

    no you need to reread my initial posts because that is not what i am doing at all

    what the f*** does this have to do with damn? I never once mentioned damn because that s*** is literally a meme people say on here, im trying to have an actual serious discussion about the creative process

    no sane person actually thinks that Keem is out here writing some deep-ass conceptual bars for kendrick I was literally defending the idea of collaboration because CLEARLY as we now see there are really some people who are aggressively against it.

    All i was pointing out is that i see a lot of kendrick stans acting like no one is worthy of being in a studio with him, which is humorous considering kendrick is probably an extremely open-minded artist who values what even the least-celebrated person in the room can bring to the table, because that is how the greats work

    the guy in that tweet that was posted literally said keem wrote for kendrick, if that's not what you're arguing cool but that's why i was responding to

  • Aug 17, 2020
    Shabazz999

    the guy in that tweet that was posted literally said keem wrote for kendrick, if that's not what you're arguing cool but that's why i was responding to

    This

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    hey man relax

    of course ghostwriting is different than that

    where itt did i mention ghostwriting?

    I think at first it seemed like your initial response was agreeing with the tweet you quoted about Keem helping Kendrick with the actual writing process, then adding your own extensive point

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    Shabazz999

    the guy in that tweet that was posted literally said keem wrote for kendrick, if that's not what you're arguing cool but that's why i was responding to

    is he not just referring to Redemption Interlude, where keem is officially credited as a writer and producer? which also isnt ghostwriting @Laced

  • Aug 17, 2020
    LUKAS

    I think at first it seemed like your initial response was agreeing with the tweet you quoted about Keem helping Kendrick with the actual writing process, then adding your own extensive point

    Those tweets are fine imo, I think your guys definition of “writing” is different from the music/industry definition, which is why there is a dissonance. To help “write” a song, it does not automatically mean one is providing lyrics, that’s just one aspect of writing. Those tweets makes no mention of Damn or any kendrick project, in fact it speaks on literally one song

    i think that the mentality of seeing those tweets and thinking this is “bad” or an attempt to “discredit” kendrick, is exactly why QM is completely blackballed from the industry and can’t even do music full-time, and is why so many talented writers get boxed out of making it as artists themselves

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    hey man relax

    is he not just referring to Redemption Interlude, where keem is officially credited as a writer and producer? which also isnt ghostwriting @Laced

    Redemption has about 20 seconds of kendrick vocals, I doubt he was referring to that especially when the initial tweet eluded to QM/Cyhi level involvement aka entire reference tracks by an uncredited party

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    Shabazz999

    Redemption has about 20 seconds of kendrick vocals, I doubt he was referring to that especially when the initial tweet eluded to QM/Cyhi level involvement aka entire reference tracks by an uncredited party

    but QM was credited?? He wasnt paid under the table he was officially credited as a writer

    and so was cyhi. My guy just look at the list of writers on this song. partly due to samples but point stands

    google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Travis-scott-sicko-mode-lyrics

    edit: that is why my assumption is that the guy was referring to the only kendrick-related song that lists keem as a writer (production credits on Nile but no writing credit)

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    hey man relax

    but QM was credited?? He wasnt paid under the table he was officially credited as a writer

    and so was cyhi. My guy just look at the list of writers on this song. partly due to samples but point stands

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Travis-scott-sicko-mode-lyrics

    edit: that is why my assumption is that the guy was referring to the only kendrick-related song that lists keem as a writer (production credits on Nile but no writing credit)

    ok I will concede that small aspect of the point I was making, which is how does *Redemption Interlude (not Redemption) where kendrick says two words on the entire track, "Black Panther", compare to QM/Chyi's reference tracks in terms or keem writing for kendrick like the tweet implies?

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    Shabazz999

    ok I will concede that small aspect of the point I was making, which is how does *Redemption Interlude (not Redemption) where kendrick says two words on the entire track, "Black Panther", compare to QM/Chyi's reference tracks in terms or keem writing for kendrick like the tweet implies?

    it doesnt, maybe the tweeter also thinks having a writing credit means you have to have contributed lyrically

    the way i interpreted it is if even kendrick, top tier writer of our time, sees the importance of collaboration, then it should be clear this is something that shouldn’t be “frowned upon”or dismissed in the way ive seen recently by other kendrick stans

  • Aug 17, 2020
    hey man relax

    it doesnt, maybe the tweeter also thinks having a writing credit means you have to have contributed lyrically

    the way i interpreted it is if even kendrick, top tier writer of our time, sees the importance of collaboration, then it should be clear this is something that shouldn’t be “frowned upon”or dismissed in the way ive seen recently by other kendrick stans

    and if that was the opinion of the majority of people on ktt and beyond who argue that kendrick collaborates with other artists for his music then there wouldnt be such push back from kendrick stans, but that's not the case.

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    Shabazz999

    ok I will concede that small aspect of the point I was making, which is how does *Redemption Interlude (not Redemption) where kendrick says two words on the entire track, "Black Panther", compare to QM/Chyi's reference tracks in terms or keem writing for kendrick like the tweet implies?

    Don’t concede to that bullshit. 😂.

  • Aug 17, 2020
    Delejayn

    Don’t concede to that bullshit. 😂.

    you’re a dumbass

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    RICKY 2320

    when did gibbs say that??

    when s80 came out, there's an interview of kendrick and freddie gibbs talking about ghostwritting for big artists and other rappers.

    And gibbs talked about that again not too long ago. He said a lot of artists were hiring both of them to write their s***

  • Aug 17, 2020

    btw, the guy in the tweet is a known troll. He even said biggie was writing for Jay lol. not sure why u even talk about the guy lol

  • Aug 17, 2020
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    Kenny on Dope Dealer beat need the full verse!

  • PIMP 💿
    Aug 17, 2020
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    bloem

    Kenny on Dope Dealer beat need the full verse!

    AYE

  • Aug 17, 2020
    PIMP

    AYE

    bruh he said "I don't slack and I get yam"

    so I just know bout to snap after that 🔥

  • KEV 🧊
    Aug 18, 2020
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    Oscar Winner

    New Kenny?
    https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/comments/ibrhe1/what_song_is_this/

    this dude allegedly has the new kanye album and some new kendrick joints

    so maybe

  • Aug 18, 2020
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    KEV

    this dude allegedly has the new kanye album and some new kendrick joints

    so maybe

    I know. But I’m saying that s*** he playing we ain’t heard before?

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