Flynn

2d

The internet is not a real place

It's also mostly bots

Go to a bar or sit down at any other place where people gather for an evening and have some real conversations with people, they are not talking about this kind of stuff

009

2d

I think I know what you mean, but idk a good way to describe it. Cause you want this issue to be as hot as possible on global consciousness but there's something that gets lost in the whole thing the bigger it gets.

I can't really tell if it's coming from the angle that anti Israeli sentiment coming from the right side of things is rooted in anti-semitism rather than the Israeli government doing genocide on the behalf of western imperialist interests. Or is it the liberal take that it's "bad" but the overall refusal to engage with the fact that the system needs more than just reform.

The most damaging part is that these two groups don't realize they are effectively the same as far as Palestinians go.

KayTray

2d

Did you guys listen to Mr Morale or nah

afterimage

2d

it already has largely, within major academic or liberal activist groups any of its revolutionary material basis has been detached away and has been enveloped to fit neatly within common American political discourse without sounding to radical- and it accomplishes multiple things

1) detaches the original, revolutionary radical population from being the direct topic of conversation and shifts the onus to bourgeois actors or rather in this case the online disputes of their petit-bourgeois fanbase

2) Any onus of American imperialism has been removed and replaced with the end goal being is X or Y person just donated enough money or had the correct idea or speech things would get better- idealist and anti-working class

The only people this truly causes people for are DNC politicians and bourgeois affiliates that need to use the lense of “progressiveness” to make themselves politically palatable and interesting to the DNC petit-bourgeois voter base while not actually offending any real sectors of power (Mamdani, AOC, )

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

2d

Not referring to you but it's funny how the hardcore Stans think that saying "He's not your savior," is supposed to shut down any critiques aimed at him lol

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

2d

Not referring to you but it's funny how the hardcore Stans think that saying "He's not your savior," is supposed to shut down any critiques aimed at him lol

Dr Lee PhD

2d

He’s not your savior 😡

afterimage

2d

it already has largely, within major academic or liberal activist groups any of its revolutionary material basis has been detached away and has been enveloped to fit neatly within common American political discourse without sounding to radical- and it accomplishes multiple things

1) detaches the original, revolutionary radical population from being the direct topic of conversation and shifts the onus to bourgeois actors or rather in this case the online disputes of their petit-bourgeois fanbase

2) Any onus of American imperialism has been removed and replaced with the end goal being is X or Y person just donated enough money or had the correct idea or speech things would get better- idealist and anti-working class

The only people this truly causes people for are DNC politicians and bourgeois affiliates that need to use the lense of “progressiveness” to make themselves politically palatable and interesting to the DNC petit-bourgeois voter base while not actually offending any real sectors of power (Mamdani, AOC, )

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

2d

Not referring to you but it's funny how the hardcore Stans think that saying "He's not your savior," is supposed to shut down any critiques aimed at him lol

kenpachi

2d

what say you about “that’s just the way Vince is, why is everyone surprised”

kenpachi

2d

what say you about “that’s just the way Vince is, why is everyone surprised”

raps2

2d

I’d rather niggas pretend to be pro black and fall short than pretend to be mob boss drill stepper types and this aint even a shot at Drake. Lmaooo i saw someone say Chance and Vic or Mick Jenkins (vic and mick song fron last year youtube comments) was cosplaying as activist and its like nigga would you rather them cosplay as street niggas, if the cosplay must occur lmao

afterimage

2d

it already has largely, within major academic or liberal activist groups any of its revolutionary material basis has been detached away and has been enveloped to fit neatly within common American political discourse without sounding to radical- and it accomplishes multiple things

1) detaches the original, revolutionary radical population from being the direct topic of conversation and shifts the onus to bourgeois actors or rather in this case the online disputes of their petit-bourgeois fanbase

2) Any onus of American imperialism has been removed and replaced with the end goal being is X or Y person just donated enough money or had the correct idea or speech things would get better- idealist and anti-working class

The only people this truly causes people for are DNC politicians and bourgeois affiliates that need to use the lense of “progressiveness” to make themselves politically palatable and interesting to the DNC petit-bourgeois voter base while not actually offending any real sectors of power (Mamdani, AOC, )

raps2

2d

I’d rather niggas pretend to be pro black and fall short than pretend to be mob boss drill stepper types and this aint even a shot at Drake. Lmaooo i saw someone say Chance and Vic or Mick Jenkins (vic and mick song fron last year youtube comments) was cosplaying as activist and its like nigga would you rather them cosplay as street niggas, if the cosplay must occur lmao

Positivenamehere

2d

Positively Two completely different scenarios

AvenueJones

2d

The goofiest logic is that a rapper who raps about the trials and tribulations of their community means they are trying to be an “activist” and when they fall short or make too much money, it’s that they are “fake” lol

afterimage

2d

it already has largely, within major academic or liberal activist groups any of its revolutionary material basis has been detached away and has been enveloped to fit neatly within common American political discourse without sounding to radical- and it accomplishes multiple things

1) detaches the original, revolutionary radical population from being the direct topic of conversation and shifts the onus to bourgeois actors or rather in this case the online disputes of their petit-bourgeois fanbase

2) Any onus of American imperialism has been removed and replaced with the end goal being is X or Y person just donated enough money or had the correct idea or speech things would get better- idealist and anti-working class

The only people this truly causes people for are DNC politicians and bourgeois affiliates that need to use the lense of “progressiveness” to make themselves politically palatable and interesting to the DNC petit-bourgeois voter base while not actually offending any real sectors of power (Mamdani, AOC, )

Positivenamehere

2d

Those #streetniggas that cosplay positively get less criticism for their content because they are “seen as lesser and dumber hard r’s that clearly dont know better or have a big enough brain even though they positively have enough smarts to make enough business decisions to have a lasting rap career but they too dumb dumb to have morals so we must treat any criticism towards my favorite gangster rapper with kid gloves and binkies because intellectually i believe they are positively 7 years old”

This is how folks that justify street rappers positively sound to me lol

Salad

2d

Kendrick Lamar has the same politics as the people on MSNBC

Palestinian Oozi

2d

There’s merit to what you’re saying…but you’re conflating “free Palestine” activism with social media fodder as a cultural phenomenon.

This is an 80 year liberation movement. No one who is actively informed with the merits of it are re-centering it around the benchmarks you describe.

aeolowl

2d

Is it me or am I getting some real 2020 vibes from this entire situation? If you're not posting about X, you must be Y. Why? How tf is this activism in any form or fashion? Y'all are genuinely turning a genocide into a hashtag and believe y'all are more morally superior for it? The f***? How does speaking on some politics, but not others, suddenly remove the validity of them?

If you're an activist for Palestine, put that energy into donating, protesting, f***ing anything but sitting your fat ass on the internet trying to slander a rapper that is already working towards his own community. If your activism starts and stops at "well, my fav celeb says what I want them to", that's not activism

Like s***, am I to assume every person I know that doesn't post about LGBTQ+ rights wants them to burn in hell or some s***? Stfu!