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  • thekid187

    dot not doing anything that could f*** up his money in a big way
    he wants to be like jayz and the to go black guy when yt folks want to appear to be in tune with the culture

    if he speaks up on stuff like that, they are gonna remind him quick on whats up

    exactly this

    Jay Z
    Pharrel the model for selling out smart

  • on another hand though, you also have to consider the history of high profile celebrities who have been politically active & even look at what happened to people who aren't at all, like the Ferguson or MPLS or Cop City organizers. Cointelpro got Jean Seberg out of here for rolling with the Panthers & she was just a white woman at the end of the day.

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    HaroldsChicken

    Pooh Shiesty is a crash out and someone that in high school wouldnt help on a group project but would try to take credit, steal your iphone then look for it with you

    no s*** he doesnt have character

    Now do Veeze Carti Uzi lol

    If you market yourself as serious and trying you get held to more of a standard than niggas who pretend to be stupid

    And then niggas wonder why the rap game is why it is

    Lmaooo @insertcoolnamehere

  • raps2

    Now do Veeze Carti Uzi lol

    If you market yourself as serious and trying you get held to more of a standard than niggas who pretend to be stupid

    And then niggas wonder why the rap game is why it is

    Lmaooo @insertcoolnamehere

    Kendrick like his fans are often disengenous

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    Oblivion X

    Some of ya itt being very obtuse on why people would expect more from Kendrick regarding politics than someone like pooh sheisty lol.

    Just because he said "im not your savior" on one album doesn't mean his discog gets thrown out. S*** even after Mr. Morale he still had moments of positioning himself in a way people expect that from him

    You put more pressure on the Cole’s and Kendrick’s for being good at rapping and having some type of awareness of whats going on around them having reactions that make it to their music than you do niggas who dont want to sell you and your future jit anything but black death and prison sentence advertisments

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    raps2

    You put more pressure on the Cole’s and Kendrick’s for being good at rapping and having some type of awareness of whats going on around them having reactions that make it to their music than you do niggas who dont want to sell you and your future jit anything but black death and prison sentence advertisments

    no s*** people hope that Kendrick is more political than veeze carti uzi

    Kendrick and Cole have partially marketed themselves as being the top of hip hop and rap

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    raps2

    You put more pressure on the Cole’s and Kendrick’s for being good at rapping and having some type of awareness of whats going on around them having reactions that make it to their music than you do niggas who dont want to sell you and your future jit anything but black death and prison sentence advertisments

    I said it earlier, but those niggas get their own brand of criticism that cole/kendrick dont get and the end of your post is what im referring to

  • people just wanted him to win album of the year for gnx

    he is the only pulitzer winner for rap
    only one to perform super bowl
    Obamas favorite rapper
    tied his career to 2pac

    and you shocked people expect him to shake things up politically more than just shaking music industry of saying he trying to out rap the greats.

  • HaroldsChicken

    no s*** people hope that Kendrick is more political than veeze carti uzi

    Kendrick and Cole have partially marketed themselves as being the top of hip hop and rap

    What does your second sentence have to do with your first? Lmaooo

  • He isnt Andre 3k and will never be nor could he be. Now the better question is are many of the outspoken political rappers dumb it down and be highly commerciallly viable like kendrick is

    is it worth it to silence your soul?

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    Oblivion X

    I said it earlier, but those niggas get their own brand of criticism that cole/kendrick dont get and the end of your post is what im referring to

    No they don’t? Whens the last time a nigga seriously a***yzed Playboi Carti’s lyrics to even know he’s cosplaying as an Atlanta gang leader which creates more archetypes of him: suburban fake blood lil niggas lol cmon “5”

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    raps2

    No they don’t? Whens the last time a nigga seriously a***yzed Playboi Carti’s lyrics to even know he’s cosplaying as an Atlanta gang leader which creates more archetypes of him: suburban fake blood lil niggas lol cmon “5”

    we know he is a goofy though lol he is a domestic abuser too

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    as cool as it would be for kendrick to speak on geopolitical issues publicly there’s also a part of him that just does not care enough about enacting change like this

    He very clearly has a dejected attitude about how the world can’t be saved through anything outside of music, you get that message over and over and over again, even in the 2pac interview at the end of tpab he was letting pac go on about the riots and bloodshed that gotta happen for things to change, and his response was basically “Imo the only hope we have left is music and vibrations”. Idk if it comes from his religious beliefs or if he legit doesn’t feel like his voice is powerful enough, but he very clearly feels that way regardless

    We can hate that all we want but it’s clearly his stance and it’s no way to force him into being an activist if it’s not some s*** he feel like he was put here for

  • Slingshot

    as cool as it would be for kendrick to speak on geopolitical issues publicly there’s also a part of him that just does not care enough about enacting change like this

    He very clearly has a dejected attitude about how the world can’t be saved through anything outside of music, you get that message over and over and over again, even in the 2pac interview at the end of tpab he was letting pac go on about the riots and bloodshed that gotta happen for things to change, and his response was basically “Imo the only hope we have left is music and vibrations”. Idk if it comes from his religious beliefs or if he legit doesn’t feel like his voice is powerful enough, but he very clearly feels that way regardless

    We can hate that all we want but it’s clearly his stance and it’s no way to force him into being an activist if it’s not some s*** he feel like he was put here for

    essentially this

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    HaroldsChicken

    we know he is a goofy though lol he is a domestic abuser too

    You’re coming up with frivolous excuses for anyone I’d name

    Rap fans are amazing

    No one talks about playboi beating women and that has nothing to do with what we’re talking about lol

    But whatever man. You’re proving the point. Trying and putting effort into your raps gets you over criticized and marketing yourself as a dumb gangbanger d*** dealing woman beater (even if you grew up with 2 parents in a 2 story house) means there is no requirement for content or social commentary in your music

  • americana

    Would You feel the same way about someone saying this regarding, say, slavery? The Holocaust?

    Those are events in the past so not directly comparable to commenting on an ongoing thing. But for comparability, I do not expect every person to have profound and expansive thoughts on the current status of racism (slavery) or antisemitism (Holocaust). I do not think every artist needs to use their platform to inform on those things or discuss them. I do not think it disqualifies an artist from talking about one if he doesn’t mention the other. I don’t see the need to play the whataboutism where you can’t speak up about one thing just because you are quiet or uninformed about something else. People attach themselves to different causes for different reasons and feel more compelled to learn about them and share their thoughts.

    There are people who care very much about Palestine but couldn’t tell you the first thing about Sudan. Or don’t follow the Ukraine war anymore. And that is fine by me. I do not think having thoughts on every humanitarian crisis is a prerequisite to speak on any of them. If an artists has a lot to say about once social cause or issue but nothing about another that is fine by me.

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    raps2

    No they don’t? Whens the last time a nigga seriously a***yzed Playboi Carti’s lyrics to even know he’s cosplaying as an Atlanta gang leader which creates more archetypes of him: suburban fake blood lil niggas lol cmon “5”

    You're missing what im saying

    Kendrick/Cole types get criticism for their politics because thats the expectation put forth from their music and brand

    Durk/pooh/yb types get criticism related to how authentic their raps or if they're really as street as they claim. We seen this with the Gucci snitching thing, because thats the expectation put from their music.

    The same way no one is criticizing Durk for being more vocal politically is the same way no one is criticizing Cole for not "getting it back in blood"

  • raps2

    You’re coming up with frivolous excuses for anyone I’d name

    Rap fans are amazing

    No one talks about playboi beating women and that has nothing to do with what we’re talking about lol

    But whatever man. You’re proving the point. Trying and putting effort into your raps gets you over criticized and marketing yourself as a dumb gangbanger d*** dealing woman beater (even if you grew up with 2 parents in a 2 story house) means there is no requirement for content or social commentary in your music

    No one talks about carti beating women @insertcoolnamehere

    I am saying the political connotations come from more than simply putting efforts in rap. Aesop Rock MF DOOM many others rap their ass off without ever being conflated to politics

  • Oblivion X

    You're missing what im saying

    Kendrick/Cole types get criticism for their politics because thats the expectation put forth from their music and brand

    Durk/pooh/yb types get criticism related to how authentic their raps or if they're really as street as they claim. We seen this with the Gucci snitching thing, because thats the expectation put from their music.

    The same way no one is criticizing Durk for being more vocal politically is the same way no one is criticizing Cole for not "getting it back in blood"

    exactly this.

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    Oblivion X

    You're missing what im saying

    Kendrick/Cole types get criticism for their politics because thats the expectation put forth from their music and brand

    Durk/pooh/yb types get criticism related to how authentic their raps or if they're really as street as they claim. We seen this with the Gucci snitching thing, because thats the expectation put from their music.

    The same way no one is criticizing Durk for being more vocal politically is the same way no one is criticizing Cole for not "getting it back in blood"

    What raps2 is saying is why do we let the otherside skate with their content AT ALL.

    Nobody really does talk about Carti being a serial abuser considering how famous and huge he is. And yall talking bout authenticity, I’m from Atlanta. Where Carti is from vastly differs from how he presents or raps about (and you cant say he does get criticized for it because him rapping about ola runt getting shanked is one of his biggest hits from WLR) but yet no one stopped to ask, “why is this riverdale nigga rapping gang s***?”

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    Positivenamehere

    What raps2 is saying is why do we let the otherside skate with their content AT ALL.

    Nobody really does talk about Carti being a serial abuser considering how famous and huge he is. And yall talking bout authenticity, I’m from Atlanta. Where Carti is from vastly differs from how he presents or raps about (and you cant say he does get criticized for it because him rapping about ola runt getting shanked is one of his biggest hits from WLR) but yet no one stopped to ask, “why is this riverdale nigga rapping gang s***?”

    Being an abuser isn't solely confined to just street rappers, there's plenty of them on the other side too that barely gets addressed no ?

    And the whole convo is about authenticity

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    Oblivion X

    Being an abuser isn't solely confined to just street rappers, there's plenty of them on the other side too that barely gets addressed no ?

    And the whole convo is about authenticity

    Why I bolded that point because most those figured (with the exception of CB) arent huge in stature

    and the whole convo is about authenticity

    And yall talking bout authenticity, I’m from Atlanta. Where Carti is from vastly differs from how he presents or raps about (and you cant say he does get criticized for it because him rapping about ola runt getting shanked is one of his biggest hits from WLR) but yet no one stopped to ask, “why is this riverdale nigga rapping gang s***?”

  • wtf does this have to do with music or Kendrick lamar

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    Positivenamehere

    What raps2 is saying is why do we let the otherside skate with their content AT ALL.

    Nobody really does talk about Carti being a serial abuser considering how famous and huge he is. And yall talking bout authenticity, I’m from Atlanta. Where Carti is from vastly differs from how he presents or raps about (and you cant say he does get criticized for it because him rapping about ola runt getting shanked is one of his biggest hits from WLR) but yet no one stopped to ask, “why is this riverdale nigga rapping gang s***?”

    do we let them skate? do I want carti to comment on political issues when he is known for screeching?