I agree with the first point to an extent. I’ve become too old to really identify an artist with myself but acknowledge a lot of people do, and that’s unhealthy.
However the second point is just a defeated attitude. And it’s actually the reason why Americans, at large, should and are actually starting to care.
This s*** isn’t gonna be solved by one artist or one statement. This is about momentum, for those who do care, and the long haul. It’s about building to a paradigm shift that will take time. And it’s about making it more and more inconvenient to be indifferent towards or in support of Israel.
Zionist control the platforms of 'free speech' lol
He been rappin for damn near 10 years had plenty time to build his fanbase lmao and tyler on there twice you think a kendrick feat would overshadow instead of helping get more eyes on the album?
would get him more listeners but many would listen to the Kendrick feature then cut it off
Last time Kendrick posted an album on his IG it got really racist and that artist became the most hated person.
would get him more listeners but many would listen to the Kendrick feature then cut it off
he really said kendrick pulled the feat to help build his fanbase
chike almost a decade strong in the game this is the moment a feat would be useful
Israel waiting for the check to clear right now
People expect celebrities to do s*** they ain't doing themselves
Oh but he has the bigger platform
And what you doing with your smaller platform nigga
You can't care that much
I agree with the first point to an extent. I’ve become too old to really identify an artist with myself but acknowledge a lot of people do, and that’s unhealthy.
However the second point is just a defeated attitude. And it’s actually the reason why Americans, at large, should and are actually starting to care.
This s*** isn’t gonna be solved by one artist or one statement. This is about momentum, for those who do care, and the long haul. It’s about building to a paradigm shift that will take time. And it’s about making it more and more inconvenient to be indifferent towards or in support of Israel.
There's a s***load of momentum. Polling data suggests 60% of Americans have a generally negative view of Israel and a loud majority want us to stop supporting them with any degree of military aid. That number can be quantified in the high 70s among Democrats and 50-60% among independents. The rest are a lost cause anyway, f*** em.
We're past the point of needing to sway opinion on this issue. It's a mainstream take now. It's ultimately a matter of people who claim to care showing up to vote and removing people from power who insist on supporting this lunacy.
The problem in the meanwhile is that many of our institutions and superpacs are run by zionists/zionist sympathizers, which is nothing a statement from Kendrick Lamar can do anything about. I don't think my position on this is defeatist so much as a reflection of what I've been seeing for my entire life as the US pours infinite amounts of our tax money into Israel.
There's a s***load of momentum. Polling data suggests 60% of Americans have a generally negative view of Israel and a loud majority want us to stop supporting them with any degree of military aid. That number can be quantified in the high 70s among Democrats and 50-60% among independents. The rest are a lost cause anyway, f*** em.
We're past the point of needing to sway opinion on this issue. It's a mainstream take now. It's ultimately a matter of people who claim to care showing up to vote and removing people from power who insist on supporting this lunacy.
The problem in the meanwhile is that many of our institutions and superpacs are run by zionists/zionist sympathizers, which is nothing a statement from Kendrick Lamar can do anything about. I don't think my position on this is defeatist so much as a reflection of what I've been seeing for my entire life as the US pours infinite amounts of our tax money into Israel.
The music industry is one of those Zionist institutions that you mentioned. There are absolutely very measurable actionable items that artists can take within their professions, or instruct their fans to take, that don’t even need to venture beyond the music industry. Just like many of us normal people do within our own professions and careers to leverage change.
There’s been decades long efforts of artists boycotting Israel. This is just a sector of the boycott. The whole movement doesn’t center on that sector or Kendrick Lamar singularly. But yes, an individual does have the ability to contribute meaningfully if he cared to. Plenty of normal people without as many options do it everyday. It’s not his obligation to.
What do you think the BDS movement is? It’s professionals in their fields strategically leveraging their skillsets or influence to make israel more and more of an inconvenience to those very institutions or political actors.
It can be as simple as me as a civil engineer in California refusing to work with or allow contract bids to use construction equipment tied to settlement expansion and pushing my colleagues to do the same.
So yes, the whole point is to recruit people towards action. Not just say “oh well is it really going to matter or make a difference”
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Last time Kendrick posted an album on his IG it got really racist and that artist became the most hated person.
Jhene Aiko?
Kendrick didn't post AZ Chike's album and you except him to talk about Palestine?!
Kendrick not posting the homies’ albums is my least favorite thing about him.
Jhene Aiko?
xxxtentacion
That cosign makes sense when you realize Kendrick lowk emo af tho.
It's all a mess, just as this thread inevitably will be too
Kendrick isnt like even an artist who has delved into prison reform or visiting prisons or doing a lot like that on black issues. He isnt visitng flint michigan or speaking out about water. He wont be speaking out about data centers or surveillance state. Forget the further reach of palestine he doesnt even have an history of taken direct action LOCALLy
Forget the further reach of palestine he doesnt even have an history of taken direct action LOCALLy
Dont think this is fair to say especially when folks can have (and proof has been shown through his friends) impact/action locally while not wanting to take credit (just give it to the kids dont gossip bout how it was distributed) or play the front because now it is no longer is about the cause but moreso about the celebrity (e.g. what has been starting to happen with this macklemore/ed sheeran topic. Yes any visibility on the topic is good visibility but as it’s been mentioned in other threads the BLMization of palestine is happening fast)
Supporting 100 local schools aint no small feat in the slightest btw
The core problem with this issue (and why MIA got flamed for what she said) is that…black lives still get s***ted on and even now non black folks (e.g. Salad) still expect us to play the back seat to global issues at large when to some of us, black livelihood is THE issue that means the most to us but black people (more than other demographics) are just expected to speak for the whole world. And it might be a selfish reason but there is still anti-blackness within the muslim world. there are people that support Palestine that dont support black causes. hell I know a Palestinian personally with some…interesting discussions about black men that come off rather festishizy because of her adjacent-ness growing up near them, ironically she from chicago. Free the real, my watermelon hat i bought because of the cause has led to a lot of interactions and convos with Palestinians that have told me seeing the hat made them feel seen and valued
“how do yall feel about them asking black people about china but never asking china about black people?” -Vince Staples on jbp when the topic of lebron came up. (And yes I know historically palestine has been 10 toes with black people on most black issues and vice versa. I also know mad muslims in new york that give dark ass me weird looks)
I just dont think EVERY black person in the world needs to be expected to understand intersectional politics automatically when those intersections still at large barely make an effort to understand us lol. To a lot of African Americans there is a sense of abandonment we feel from all sides, even from mf africans we come from errbody saying “black americans have no culture” and it’s like damn, do we have anybody that really f***s with us??
Conclusion: If I had to make an educated guess, the last paragraph is how kendrick probably feels on Palestine. Wrong and misinformed? Yes. A problematic view enforced on him by what the world has shown? Also yes.
Forget the further reach of palestine he doesnt even have an history of taken direct action LOCALLy
Dont think this is fair to say especially when folks can have (and proof has been shown through his friends) impact/action locally while not wanting to take credit (just give it to the kids dont gossip bout how it was distributed) or play the front because now it is no longer is about the cause but moreso about the celebrity (e.g. what has been starting to happen with this macklemore/ed sheeran topic. Yes any visibility on the topic is good visibility but as it’s been mentioned in other threads the BLMization of palestine is happening fast)
Supporting 100 local schools aint no small feat in the slightest btw
The core problem with this issue (and why MIA got flamed for what she said) is that…black lives still get s***ted on and even now non black folks (e.g. Salad) still expect us to play the back seat to global issues at large when to some of us, black livelihood is THE issue that means the most to us but black people (more than other demographics) are just expected to speak for the whole world. And it might be a selfish reason but there is still anti-blackness within the muslim world. there are people that support Palestine that dont support black causes. hell I know a Palestinian personally with some…interesting discussions about black men that come off rather festishizy because of her adjacent-ness growing up near them, ironically she from chicago. Free the real, my watermelon hat i bought because of the cause has led to a lot of interactions and convos with Palestinians that have told me seeing the hat made them feel seen and valued
“how do yall feel about them asking black people about china but never asking china about black people?” -Vince Staples on jbp when the topic of lebron came up. (And yes I know historically palestine has been 10 toes with black people on most black issues and vice versa. I also know mad muslims in new york that give dark ass me weird looks)
I just dont think EVERY black person in the world needs to be expected to understand intersectional politics automatically when those intersections still at large barely make an effort to understand us lol. To a lot of African Americans there is a sense of abandonment we feel from all sides, even from mf africans we come from errbody saying “black americans have no culture” and it’s like damn, do we have anybody that really f***s with us??
Conclusion: If I had to make an educated guess, the last paragraph is how kendrick probably feels on Palestine. Wrong and misinformed? Yes. A problematic view enforced on him by what the world has shown? Also yes.
It is fair to say when the people doing so are saying they want him to do so not for performative but to inspire others or to feel good. His friends getting free or being free alone isnt prooof he cares about these topics. Yes I know about the thanksgivign or christmas give awy I mean about the black trending topics.
Black lives matter was ann organization and slogan. I am saying remove the organization trade marked slogan with shirts and merch. Certain artist were showing in actions that black lves mattered to them Kendrick is one of them. Black Lives Matter learned from Kony 12. To sell a product. Sell a movement that feeling of uniting. That combination with social media.Which was reinforced by certain artist coopting the black lives matter movement
Intersectional politics is part of how we got here. I do think some black people who say "what have asians done for us when have they showed us solidarity" they never do anything for us are dumb

What have the jews ever done for us

what have the palestinians ever done for us (I have this book a palestinian sent it)

I dont think having accesss to read, books and information is an valid excuse to not being informed or attempting on more of the world outside of "WOO THAT S*** IN IRAN MUST BE CRAZY BECAUSE GAS PRICES ARE GOING UP"
its 2026
I am not saying those tryingn to survive basically I am saying the middle classm who spends much of the use of the internet being performative while not genuinely being informed or simply argue politics in black or white republican or democrat who said I am with her and go kamala anyone who didnt vote for kamala caused Trump bullshit
I am not talking about China. I am saying its silly to ask about it in interviews. I am saying the "BLACK IS THE MOST HATED" even while a genocide goes on is silly same as it was during drone strikes. When we win but uniting not by the goofy divisiion
this same s*** thrived in election season
I forgot he just did that lmao, I was talking about Doechii.
thats not why doechii got hate the hate campaign against doechii existed before Kendrick posted her
I mean in a way its interesting because why do people expect more from Ed sheeran from Kendrick ? Wouldnt Kendrick take the same actions as Ed if an opener he had operated outside of what the owners wanted @insertcoolnamehere ?
It is fair to say when the people doing so are saying they want him to do so not for performative but to inspire others or to feel good. His friends getting free or being free alone isnt prooof he cares about these topics. Yes I know about the thanksgivign or christmas give awy I mean about the black trending topics.
Black lives matter was ann organization and slogan. I am saying remove the organization trade marked slogan with shirts and merch. Certain artist were showing in actions that black lves mattered to them Kendrick is one of them. Black Lives Matter learned from Kony 12. To sell a product. Sell a movement that feeling of uniting. That combination with social media.Which was reinforced by certain artist coopting the black lives matter movement
Intersectional politics is part of how we got here. I do think some black people who say "what have asians done for us when have they showed us solidarity" they never do anything for us are dumb

What have the jews ever done for us

what have the palestinians ever done for us (I have this book a palestinian sent it)

I dont think having accesss to read, books and information is an valid excuse to not being informed or attempting on more of the world outside of "WOO THAT S*** IN IRAN MUST BE CRAZY BECAUSE GAS PRICES ARE GOING UP"
its 2026
I am not saying those tryingn to survive basically I am saying the middle classm who spends much of the use of the internet being performative while not genuinely being informed or simply argue politics in black or white republican or democrat who said I am with her and go kamala anyone who didnt vote for kamala caused Trump bullshit
I am not talking about China. I am saying its silly to ask about it in interviews. I am saying the "BLACK IS THE MOST HATED" even while a genocide goes on is silly same as it was during drone strikes. When we win but uniting not by the goofy divisiion
https://twitter.com/HisfavoriteTing/status/2101373878186459245this same s*** thrived in election season
His friends getting free or being free alone isnt prooof he cares about these topics. Yes I know about the thanksgivign or christmas give away I mean about the black trending topics.
It also isn't proof he doesn't care about these topics.
We've seen kendrick interviews bro don't be saying s*** periodt. When #otherman said he doesn't do s*** for Compton, it only took a day for the internet to come out with videos and factoids of various people from Compton talking about the ways and things that Kendrick does for Compton and even just how what he does "inspires/gives them hope" ( Tell your story to these black and brown kids in Compton. Let 'em know you was just like them, but you still rose from that dark place of violence. )
Black lives matter was an organization and slogan. I am saying remove the organization trade marked slogan with shirts and merch. Certain artist were showing in actions that black lves mattered to them Kendrick is one of them. Black Lives Matter learned from Kony 12. To sell a product. Sell a movement that feeling of uniting. That combination with social media.Which was reinforced by certain artist coopting the black lives matter movement
The problem was it wasn't uniting period. I was involved in 2 different orgs during 2020 and both fell apart due to "scandal" and people getting outsed and everything dissolving into inner politics and popularity contests. It was a truly disillusioning experience.
Intersectional politics is part of how we got here. I do think some black people who say "what have asians done for us when have they showed us solidarity" they never do anything for us are dumb
1. I said his belief in that is wrong and misinformed.
2. And for every Yuri Kochiyama there is like 10 Chikei Rick Chows/Soon Da Jus. Idk how it is in Chicago but I know round here, it is a huge problem enough that the Asians that get it call out the anti-blackness in their own communities.
3. Once again, living in New York, the relationship between jews and blacks have been fractured for decades + dealing with gentrification AND significant events like Crown Heights riots (RIP Cato) just once again, it's gon' be a hard sell dawg to tell black folk especially during a time where it's proof that shows those communities get policed WAY DIFFERENT than black communities (also nypd is zionist asf)
continued @ShintaroKago
I am not saying those tryingn to survive basically I am saying the middle classm who spends much of the use of the internet being performative while not genuinely being informed or simply argue politics in black or white republican or democrat who said I am with her and go kamala anyone who didnt vote for kamala caused Trump bullshit
And if the argument is Kendrick should have more than enough life experience for his perspective to grow I'm not arguing with that at all. I truly believe Glasses Malone when he says "all Kendrick does is go to the gym and hang with his family and rap." I think bro don't really be doing s*** lmao.
I am not talking about China. I am saying its silly to ask about it in interviews. I am saying the "BLACK IS THE MOST HATED" even while a genocide goes on is silly same as it was during drone strikes. When we win but uniting not by the goofy divisiion
I agree uniting is what is the answer but it's gonna just always be a hard sell when you dealing with a group of people that's been hurt for centuries man. That's all I'm saying.
His friends getting free or being free alone isnt prooof he cares about these topics. Yes I know about the thanksgivign or christmas give away I mean about the black trending topics.
It also isn't proof he doesn't care about these topics.
We've seen kendrick interviews bro don't be saying s*** periodt. When #otherman said he doesn't do s*** for Compton, it only took a day for the internet to come out with videos and factoids of various people from Compton talking about the ways and things that Kendrick does for Compton and even just how what he does "inspires/gives them hope" ( Tell your story to these black and brown kids in Compton. Let 'em know you was just like them, but you still rose from that dark place of violence. )
Black lives matter was an organization and slogan. I am saying remove the organization trade marked slogan with shirts and merch. Certain artist were showing in actions that black lves mattered to them Kendrick is one of them. Black Lives Matter learned from Kony 12. To sell a product. Sell a movement that feeling of uniting. That combination with social media.Which was reinforced by certain artist coopting the black lives matter movement
The problem was it wasn't uniting period. I was involved in 2 different orgs during 2020 and both fell apart due to "scandal" and people getting outsed and everything dissolving into inner politics and popularity contests. It was a truly disillusioning experience.
Intersectional politics is part of how we got here. I do think some black people who say "what have asians done for us when have they showed us solidarity" they never do anything for us are dumb
1. I said his belief in that is wrong and misinformed.
2. And for every Yuri Kochiyama there is like 10 Chikei Rick Chows/Soon Da Jus. Idk how it is in Chicago but I know round here, it is a huge problem enough that the Asians that get it call out the anti-blackness in their own communities.
3. Once again, living in New York, the relationship between jews and blacks have been fractured for decades + dealing with gentrification AND significant events like Crown Heights riots (RIP Cato) just once again, it's gon' be a hard sell dawg to tell black folk especially during a time where it's proof that shows those communities get policed WAY DIFFERENT than black communities (also nypd is zionist asf)
I am not saying he doesnt care about these topics or needs to prove it. I am applying to Salad and Herald how can he jump to Palestine when we haven't directly even seen him be active on things in closer proximity. Not just compton. I mean black issues in america in general he isnt speaking on to that degree
I am saying they are racist and demons in every race. There are islamophobic, transphobic , spit on a homeless white person blackp people. I still think a large generalization of a culture or people doesnt serve us.
I mean in a way its interesting because why do people expect more from Ed sheeran from Kendrick ? Wouldnt Kendrick take the same actions as Ed if an opener he had operated outside of what the owners wanted @insertcoolnamehere ?
The difference is Ed is bigger than Kendrick + the expectation of "white privilege" should lead to white artists taking the bigger hit than the black artist that on average has more to lose.
Macklemore is probably richer than some of our most popping black rappers (not big 3) just off the fact he has achieved his level of success while independent hence why he started his statement saying "I am not a victim."
We hate rappers for being silent and lacking the bravery but I'ma go out on a limb and say most rappers couldn't afford to do what Macklemore did, Macklemore can. lo.
Tell em Kendrick didn’t
continued @ShintaroKago
I am not saying those tryingn to survive basically I am saying the middle classm who spends much of the use of the internet being performative while not genuinely being informed or simply argue politics in black or white republican or democrat who said I am with her and go kamala anyone who didnt vote for kamala caused Trump bullshit
And if the argument is Kendrick should have more than enough life experience for his perspective to grow I'm not arguing with that at all. I truly believe Glasses Malone when he says "all Kendrick does is go to the gym and hang with his family and rap." I think bro don't really be doing s*** lmao.
I am not talking about China. I am saying its silly to ask about it in interviews. I am saying the "BLACK IS THE MOST HATED" even while a genocide goes on is silly same as it was during drone strikes. When we win but uniting not by the goofy divisiion
I agree uniting is what is the answer but it's gonna just always be a hard sell when you dealing with a group of people that's been hurt for centuries man. That's all I'm saying.
I am fine with kendrick just doing gym, promo, family, rap and upcoming movie
i accept who Kendrick is . I dont like his fans again conflating him to be much more even as he tells them that he isnt their savior not to worship him because they miss the point.