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  • Dec 9, 2024
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    Valentine

    You said self awareness and creativity to show range. I can give you plenty J. Cole solo songs, singles, and features during that run that had niggas ranking him high cause of it and show range for his particular palette. I get that lil beef altered niggas perspectives in Cole, but I remember what it was just a year ago

    I don’t think the general notion for Cole changed during that run. It also ended with him apologizing. That’s like winning the mvp but not the championship.

    Steph had a legendary 2016 but every one remembers the final lost.

    same with Cole. He built a nice house but future the roof.

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    NewCopeJustDropped

    I don’t think the general notion for Cole changed during that run. It also ended with him apologizing. That’s like winning the mvp but not the championship.

    Steph had a legendary 2016 but every one remembers the final lost.

    same with Cole. He built a nice house but future the roof.

    I agree.

    With that said tho, does it take away Curry’s unanimous MVP? Cause that’s what niggas are doing

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    • GNX
    • CHROMAKOPIA
    • Dark Times
    • Bando Stone and The New World
    • Blue Lips
    • I LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR YOU
    • Atavista
    • Alligator Bites Never Heal
    • Why Lawd?

    we won so f***ing hard this year. if Kendrick drops something again i'll cream

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    aeolowl
    • GNX
    • CHROMAKOPIA
    • Dark Times
    • Bando Stone and The New World
    • Blue Lips
    • I LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR YOU
    • Atavista
    • Alligator Bites Never Heal
    • Why Lawd?

    we won so f***ing hard this year. if Kendrick drops something again i'll cream

    Next year for rap gonna be so ass lmao all the heavy hitters dropped this year

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    Valentine

    I agree.

    With that said tho, does it take away Curry’s unanimous MVP? Cause that’s what niggas are doing

    It kinda does. Steph had to wins a finals mvp 6 years later to get over that proverbial hump. That’s the fall off for Cole now.

    Unfortunately he will never be taken serious in comparisons with Kendrick. Same with Steph and lebron.

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    Valentine

    You said self awareness and creativity to show range. I can give you plenty J. Cole solo songs, singles, and features during that run that had niggas ranking him high cause of it and show range for his particular palette. I get that lil beef altered niggas perspectives in Cole, but I remember what it was just a year ago

    Bro ima keep it a buck I always felt like Cole not only naturally fell into his spot as #3 but also fed into the fact that he’s been the runt of the litter way before the beef started. That lil run was cool to me but I always felt like dude had a mountain to climb before we can really put him on the other two guys’ level.

  • Dec 9, 2024
    Unforgivable

    Next year for rap gonna be so ass lmao all the heavy hitters dropped this year

    Keem this is your chance

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    NewCopeJustDropped

    It kinda does. Steph had to wins a finals mvp 6 years later to get over that proverbial hump. That’s the fall off for Cole now.

    Unfortunately he will never be taken serious in comparisons with Kendrick. Same with Steph and lebron.

    And I think those are straw man arguments built around one stat that has also been accomplished. All these dudes revolutionized this rap we hear whether niggas wanna downplay it or not. Dreamville fest existed before flog naw lol and I don’t really see anyone else doing this for artists in rap at his level.

  • Dec 9, 2024

    niggas actin bad

    but somebody gotta do it

  • Dec 9, 2024
    Unforgivable

    Next year for rap gonna be so ass lmao all the heavy hitters dropped this year

    Carti dropping I AM MUSIC will make up for it

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    cryforhell

    Bro ima keep it a buck I always felt like Cole not only naturally fell into his spot as #3 but also fed into the fact that he’s been the runt of the litter way before the beef started. That lil run was cool to me but I always felt like dude had a mountain to climb before we can really put him on the other two guys’ level.

    Mountain to climb lemme know when Drake and Dot get their own decade anniversary for their music festival that helped many artists jump off. Cole’s ticket gate is the same if not better than Kendrick’s he just did a short tour cause of covid. Watch the next solo tour. Just yapping. First artist in history to debut 4 songs in the top 10 and that was in 2021 when niggas were s***ting on Dot

  • Dec 9, 2024
    Jim Halpert

    what held him back his whole career is not making a great project but instead a few good ones

    Yes.

    No real depth or creativity.

    He’s a good rapper, not a great creative

  • Valentine

    And I think those are straw man arguments built around one stat that has also been accomplished. All these dudes revolutionized this rap we hear whether niggas wanna downplay it or not. Dreamville fest existed before flog naw lol and I don’t really see anyone else doing this for artists in rap at his level.

    I don’t think it’s one stat.

    Since Cole’s run has started, he hasnt outsold Kendrick one time. He hasn’t charted higher than Kendrick. He hasn’t out toured Kendrick. He also hasn’t been more critically acclaimed or won more awards. Now I don’t care about most that stuff but that’s what bro is saying above you and the casual fan does.

    What you can argue and I would agree with is that he has rapped better but then he apologized. That’s how the general public will dissect it.

    Cole has so many great features but none as impactful as Like That.

    It’s just too many components he falls behind in.

  • Dec 9, 2024

    And to be fair there’s a lot of good rappers who had the same problem.. it’s frustrating when you know a rappers potential based on what he does on features and singles but can never bring you a complete great work in the form of an album.

    It shouldn’t get you forgotten in history but it also shouldn’t get you praised on the same level as the top tier goats. You’re on the next tier

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    Valentine

    Mountain to climb lemme know when Drake and Dot get their own decade anniversary for their music festival that helped many artists jump off. Cole’s ticket gate is the same if not better than Kendrick’s he just did a short tour cause of covid. Watch the next solo tour. Just yapping. First artist in history to debut 4 songs in the top 10 and that was in 2021 when niggas were s***ting on Dot

    Talking strictly music buddy not other ventures. Dot is the more lyrical, conscious and critically acclaimed artist yet still has massive hits on every album he’s dropped since GKMC with the exception of MMATBS let alone huge features… Drake has him beat in pretty much every category except projects which has always been a weak spot for him since he’s been more of a singles guy, and it’s not like Cole has been dropping classics left and right in spite of that. At the end of the day, I saw Cole being apart of Drake’s FATD rollout and tour him conceding to him whether intentionally or not cuz I know for damn sure Kendrick and Drake wouldn’t do the same

  • Valentine

    And I think those are straw man arguments built around one stat that has also been accomplished. All these dudes revolutionized this rap we hear whether niggas wanna downplay it or not. Dreamville fest existed before flog naw lol and I don’t really see anyone else doing this for artists in rap at his level.

    The same artist that don’t want to be on his label anymore?

  • Dec 9, 2024
    cryforhell

    Talking strictly music buddy not other ventures. Dot is the more lyrical, conscious and critically acclaimed artist yet still has massive hits on every album he’s dropped since GKMC with the exception of MMATBS let alone huge features… Drake has him beat in pretty much every category except projects which has always been a weak spot for him since he’s been more of a singles guy, and it’s not like Cole has been dropping classics left and right in spite of that. At the end of the day, I saw Cole being apart of Drake’s FATD rollout and tour him conceding to him whether intentionally or not cuz I know for damn sure Kendrick and Drake wouldn’t do the same

    Word lol

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    cant post but mustard exposing Bo1da in his ig stories hating on west coast rap but in mustards dms saying he fw not like us

  • Dec 9, 2024
    BrainWorms4U

    cant post but mustard exposing Bo1da in his ig stories hating on west coast rap but in mustards dms saying he fw not like us

    Just saw that lol. I think we know who the mole is.

  • Dec 9, 2024

    Heard tv off & squabble up at the Steelers game yesterday during timeouts The stadium tour about to hit different

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    BrainWorms4U

    cant post but mustard exposing Bo1da in his ig stories hating on west coast rap but in mustards dms saying he fw not like us

    Huh lol

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Huh lol

    started here

    then mustard posted this

    i think someone should make a thread tbh lets get 50 pages and some crash outs going to start our week off right

  • Dec 9, 2024
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    Everest

    started here

    https://twitter.com/MrBusby4o8/status/1866045389381767596

    then mustard posted this

    https://twitter.com/LoveIsback24/status/1866230082320175370

    i think someone should make a thread tbh lets get 50 pages and some crash outs going to start our week off right

    Damn so NLU was actually enjoyed by Team OVO

  • Dec 9, 2024
    Everest

    started here

    https://twitter.com/MrBusby4o8/status/1866045389381767596

    then mustard posted this

    https://twitter.com/LoveIsback24/status/1866230082320175370

    i think someone should make a thread tbh lets get 50 pages and some crash outs going to start our week off right

    Boi 1da the mole and working overtime to prove himself