Jan 21
EchiTwigsgot blocked by a better album
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@Hndrxx_FreeI agree.
goretex 💁🏽♂️Jan 21·1 reply
TheFader119K is a great number for Rocky in 2026 man
nah it is, harlem just got work 2 do
Jan 21goretexHarlem got work 2 do
Facts
- Jan 21
ElementalThose are good numbers for Rocky but what happened to the 200k+ number I was seeing online? Was that a fake projection?
- Jan 21·3 replies
Since 100k+ great is considered good for Rocky, what numbers would be considered great for J. Cole and for Drake?
SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻Jan 21·3 repliesTheFader200K+ was completely fake, that was set as a betting line by Kalshi for some reason
However, there was a Billboard press release a few days ago that claimed the album had sold 130K in vinyl before release
As of right now, it’s unsure whether that was a global total or a misreported figure
people who don’t check sources are baffled about the 200k number lol
Jan 21·2 repliesthegreatdivineSince 100k+ great is considered good for Rocky, what numbers would be considered great for J. Cole and for Drake?
It’s relative to their last drop
So Cole needs to do much better than MDL and Drake needs to do better than his last solo
- Jan 21·3 repliesSABMAN TURNT
people who don’t check sources are baffled about the 200k number lol
It’s blowing my mind how that number actually gained traction and people believed it. It was never reported officially ANYWHERE
- Jan 21TheFader
It’s blowing my mind how that number actually gained traction and people believed it. It was never reported officially ANYWHERE
They believed it in the Drake album thread LOL
- SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻Jan 21TheFader
It’s blowing my mind how that number actually gained traction and people believed it. It was never reported officially ANYWHERE
Kalshi affiliates infiltrated the hip hop social media space, so formerly trusted sources suddenly started saying 200k and everyone else ran with it
- Jan 21thegreatdivine
Since 100k+ great is considered good for Rocky, what numbers would be considered great for J. Cole and for Drake?
Good for Cole, for this album specifically, would be 300K+. His last album did 282K, and The Fall Off has been touted as his big retirement album, in the making for 10 years, and has physicals to back it up. It’s gotta clear at least 300K.
Good for Drake would be 350K+ (without physicals). His last solo album did 400K, and whether we want to or not, people are gonna compare the first performance of Iceman to the first week performance of GNX. With physicals, a good number for him is 400K+
- Jan 21·1 replySABMAN TURNT
people who don’t check sources are baffled about the 200k number lol
I'd have imagined that by now, everyone would have known to wait for HDD projections before jumping to any conclusions but alas.
- SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻Jan 21·1 replythegreatdivine
I'd have imagined that by now, everyone would have known to wait for HDD projections before jumping to any conclusions but alas.
not everyone is obsessed with sales enough to check sources, they just see something and run with it
- Jan 21·2 repliesMusic Listener
It’s relative to their last drop
So Cole needs to do much better than MDL and Drake needs to do better than his last solo
I think for Cole, you have to use his last solo album, and that'd be The Off-Season. So, anything above 282k for Cole and anything above 402k for Drake would be considered great numbers for their next respective albums?
- Jan 21thegreatdivine
I think for Cole, you have to use his last solo album, and that'd be The Off-Season. So, anything above 282k for Cole and anything above 402k for Drake would be considered great numbers for their next respective albums?
No. Cole has to improve on Off-Season, and Drake shouldn’t be expected to hit 400K again
Jan 21·2 repliesMusic ListenerIt’s relative to their last drop
So Cole needs to do much better than MDL and Drake needs to do better than his last solo
Why do artists 17 years into their careers have to go up sales wise still?
Jan 21·2 repliesTheFaderIt’s blowing my mind how that number actually gained traction and people believed it. It was never reported officially ANYWHERE
Complex reported it. 200k was feasible, but it Luminate may have axed some sales. Still gotta wait for Billboard numbers.
- Jan 21Tilia
Why do artists 17 years into their careers have to go up sales wise still?
For these specific albums, Cole has to, Drake doesn’t.
- Jan 21Tilia
Why do artists 17 years into their careers have to go up sales wise still?
They asked what would be “great” not what would be serviceable
All I see is Drake fans saying he’s gonna do 600 and he’s gonna match CLB, I’m holding them to their own standards
- Jan 21·1 replyMidzy
Complex reported it. 200k was feasible, but it Luminate may have axed some sales. Still gotta wait for Billboard numbers.
Complex does not have any info about album sales, they was running with the Kalshi info
- Jan 21thegreatdivine
I think for Cole, you have to use his last solo album, and that'd be The Off-Season. So, anything above 282k for Cole and anything above 402k for Drake would be considered great numbers for their next respective albums?
Yeah that sounds about right
- Gosh 😹Jan 21Midzy
Complex reported it. 200k was feasible, but it Luminate may have axed some sales. Still gotta wait for Billboard numbers.
Complex just took it from a gambling site didn’t they, that was never an official number
- Jan 21·2 repliesTheFader
Complex does not have any info about album sales, they was running with the Kalshi info
Rocky claimed 130k sold units before the album dropped
Streaming wise he's doing 70k
= 200k
- Jan 21·1 replyMidzy
Rocky claimed 130k sold units before the album dropped
Streaming wise he's doing 70k
= 200k
Artists and their teams are never to be trusted when it comes to publicly reporting numbers
HDD projections are the only source to listen to
- Gosh 😹Jan 21·1 replyMidzy
Rocky claimed 130k sold units before the album dropped
Streaming wise he's doing 70k
= 200k
They claimed that’s how many vinyls were bought, they still need to be shipped out to count first week, they could easily be just shipped in phases like other physicals