you can't blame the decline of rap on oldheads because not even the majority of zoomers listen to rappers from their own generation, they're listening to indie rock and pop music or whatever.

at some point you get tired of hearing the same s*** from 2017-2021 rehashed over and over when a lot of it wasn't even that good in the first place.

i dont even understand this "decline of rap"

this s*** is all on demand, you can hear all variations based on your taste. Why does it matter what's popping on radio anymore as no one is consuming music through that anyways?

Hes just calling anyone who disagrees with him a bot 🥴

i think meet the grahams youtube was botted unless his ratio outside the US is super high.

MTG first week streams US was 25.8m
(source:totc)

US spotify chart streams were 11.3m

so youtube apple etc make up the rest

Billboard 200 top 10 this week:

kendrick's diss tracks on youtube were the most obviously botted ones initially. the numbers just looked comical in real time when those songs came out. it wasn't until his full numbers on spotify came out that i noticed the discrepancy on there too and started paying attention to the streaming service numbers

thinking about it its actually insane how okay he was in being that blatant.because he should've known that when everything is settled and his numbers suddenly return back to his usual level, he will be called out for it

Artistically, i've always thought he was far below kanye and drake and below future too but the fact he felt he had to do all that in a diss battle against drake is always funny to me. you're supposed to be the better lyriscist and you don't feel confident against the popstar even in a 20v1?

It's almost christmas 2025 and these niggas cant get over the fact Kendrick won

Genuine question. Why didn’t drakes team of lawyers that he paid probably around 8 figures for not argue this in court?

Why didn’t any of drakes petitions that he filed come up any any evidence that supports the botting claims?

Genuine question

my guy, i know you're gonna continue your s***posting but i never relied on a drake lawsuit to validate what i was seeing with my own eyes. and i don't need a lawsuit to see the trend of someone's streaming numbers. im not drake's lawyer or advisor

I mean theres no way to prove without a doubt youtube botting with out having backend data.

But I think we can admit either: A the ratio of streams outside the US is very high and abnormal for a US rapper or B a lot of the views were botted and filtered out of Billboard.

Example of recent youtube botting is the one ice spice song.

If yall can’t prove it, why speak it about it like its a fact, it just makes it seem like cope especially this far out from the battle

Drake had his chance to prove botting happened and the judge laughed in his face the same say everyone laughs at Drake stans who keep making these pathetic claims

Meet the grahams has about the same total streams as family matters

How am I “shit posting” by asking you to elaborate on what you’re saying in this thread?

You do that a lot where you make an outrageous claim and then whenever someone tries to discuss what you said you cower away.

Damn Drake would’ve won the lawsuit if they just let blue man testify, they missed out on an eye witness

They saw Kendrick’s songs get more views on YouTube than drakes and instead of just saying more people listened they went to “bots”.

They also just don’t know how incredibly popular YouTube vids work, it takes a little bit for everything to even out and bot comments are unavoidable for popular content, there’s also no telling how many desperate Drake stans tried botting the vids themselves just for it to get filtered out and MTG still be more popular than FM

“The numbers looked weird” doesn’t work in court and won’t work here, sad to see how warped that fanbase has become.

This what I am referring to.

Family matters has a significant more streams first week than MTG.

spotify US chart:
Family matters - 13.3m
MTG - 11.3m

🤔

That’s the prediction chart but I’m sure it was something close to that

It had a video release, an explicit, and clean release, of course it debuted higher, the issue with it is it couldn’t sustain its hype because MTG and the reaction to it ended up completely drowning it out and after a week nobody cared about FM anymore

FM was supposed to be a smash hit, and they released it as so, MTG was just a YouTube link and word of mouth did the rest

that was not a real question. you're asking something that doesn't relate at all to what i was saying so you can derail from whats reality. your question implies that i didn't suspect of kendrick botting before the lawsuit (i did), that the lawsuit only has to with if kendrick botted or not (it's mostly about defamation), and that i was relying on a judge to decide if what i can see with my own eyes is real or not. its a total bad faith question and you know it

There’s nothing bad faith about asking why didn’t drakes million dollar lawyers include proof you find to be so obvious in a lawsuit that involves botting

You being delusional before the lawsuit doesn’t answer the question, it just makes you look more embarrassing

FM: 37m - 13.3m (spotify US)
= 23.7m on youtube + apple music + others

MTG: 25.8m - 11.3 (spotify US)
= 14.5m on youtube + apple music + others

🤔

what you think @thegreatdivine

Because Kendrick dropped another much more popular and mainstream friendly song literally the next day