goretex 💁🏽♂️Oct 31, 2025
Lets get ithip hop was always us vs them from the very start
the bridge is over
Oct 31, 2025·4 repliesgoretexconservatism also is playing into hip hops mainstream "fall off"
it felt like pre trump white people were like alright we gotta start playing the nigga meta so we gon adopt aave listen to rap etc (which they've always done. hip hop was probably da most popular genre in the 90s culturally the charts just didnt allow it to be fact) but now since were going backwards in time white folks going back to they bread and butter
why u think country back so hard
You know what’s funny, country was only able to do so this decade initially by using hiphop production. Like Last Night has a f***ing LA rap beat under them guitars for crying out loud lol
Oct 31, 2025·2 replies
Free YoungBoy“No new stars”
https://twitter.com/kurrco/status/1984046603494420742
Debuted in 2016
- goretex 💁🏽♂️Oct 31, 2025·1 reply
i do think whole heartily that hip hop's battle aspect of it is always gonna be its fatal flaw yes its awesome and lead to so many classic records and eras but overall this being baked into the very genre and culture is just making it 2 where its always gotta be this. its always gonna have to be dot vs drake nas vs jay big vs pac like no other genre gotta do that idk man i never sat right with me that them corporations basically funded both armies and watched them kill themselves all for personnel gain
niggas said hip hop a competitive sport i said oh hell nah something off
- Oct 31, 2025goretex
whataboutism bra
It’s not, it’s pointing out hypocrisy
- goretex 💁🏽♂️Oct 31, 2025BRAVE
You know what’s funny, country was only able to do so this decade initially by using hiphop production. Like Last Night has a f***ing LA rap beat under them guitars for crying out loud lol
deadass omfg
i remember around 2016 being like nigga these is rap songs
- Oct 31, 2025goretex
conservatism also is playing into hip hops mainstream "fall off"
it felt like pre trump white people were like alright we gotta start playing the nigga meta so we gon adopt aave listen to rap etc (which they've always done. hip hop was probably da most popular genre in the 90s culturally the charts just didnt allow it to be fact) but now since were going backwards in time white folks going back to they bread and butter
why u think country back so hard
What else is f***ed about this is: in terms of values, a lot of rap is pretty damn conservative. So the shift here shows how much it’s about race
- Oct 31, 2025thegreatdivine
That's another thing that's affected rap. This idea that there's somehow "good rap" and "bad rap." That's especially something that was pushed once the beef took off. If you liked mainstream rap music that was popular or you like Drake, you weren't a real hip-hop fan but if you liked conscious rap or Kendrick then you were a real hip-hop fan. All that s*** further divided rap fans, many of which are now giving their listening time to pop and country music instead.
Any rap fan that has shifted their listening time to rap and country was never a rap fan in the first place
Oct 31, 2025goretexi do think whole heartily that hip hop's battle aspect of it is always gonna be its fatal flaw yes its awesome and lead to so many classic records and eras but overall this being baked into the very genre and culture is just making it 2 where its always gotta be this. its always gonna have to be dot vs drake nas vs jay big vs pac like no other genre gotta do that idk man i never sat right with me that them corporations basically funded both armies and watched them kill themselves all for personnel gain
niggas said hip hop a competitive sport i said oh hell nah something off
it’s funny how nobody thought it was off how spotify was egging the beef on
- goretex 💁🏽♂️Oct 31, 2025
yea also he was like a baby back then lmao
- Oct 31, 2025·1 replygoretex
also lets be real this whole hip hop "falling off" commercially thing is a combination of a lot of s***
1. recession is making it extremely hard for artist to tour, and with many of them skipping the necessary steps of doing smaller tours before arenas, its looking really bad for rap concerts because a lot getting canceled cause they just wont dat list in the first place.
2. billboard whether u like to admit it or not is clearly changing the rules to hip hop cant be as dominant as it was. u could argue that streaming was basically created for hip hop in terms of how our music is released dropped etc. they're patching the methods and we've seen slowly but surely drops in sales from ALL rappers (other genres too but u know what i mean)
3. were in a inbetween era similar to the 00s but no one is recognizing or accepting that not only are we transitioning, but we are extremely behind due to covid and the next generation of rappers are socially awkward and wetarded off government juiced spray zaza.
billboard whether u like to admit it or not is clearly changing the rules to hip hop cant be as dominant as it was.
I’m so tired of niggas blaming Billboard bruh.
Where are the new stars?
Where is the new sound?
Where are the hit records?
- Oct 31, 2025·1 replythegreatdivine
Yeah but we still had stars like T.I., Jay Z, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, etc doing numbers and scoring hits. You really can't compare it to now. And also, people like Drake hit the ground running. Drake started scoring hits in 2009 with a free mixtape.
The lack of new stars who are established and who can maintain a work ethic is what will kill mainstream rap. It's ridiculous that Drake, in 2025, is still the most exciting thing in rap to talk about. He shouldn't be the biggest name in rap at this point. That should be on someone younger and fresher. That should be the one who is the lightning rod.
Kanye, Jay, Wayne, and Dr Dre all gave platforms to the superstars of today.
Do you feel like it’s up to Drake, Kendrick, and Cole to do the same? I’m surprised Drake hasn’t found himself some kind of successor. Maybe he doesn’t want one at all. Kendrick did good with Baby Keem but the guy just disappeared on his own.
- Oct 31, 2025·1 replyTheFader
Debuted in 2016
Sabrina carpenter debuted 2015
Oct 31, 2025·1 replyBRAVEYou know what’s funny, country was only able to do so this decade initially by using hiphop production. Like Last Night has a f***ing LA rap beat under them guitars for crying out loud lol
Morgan doesn't even listen to country music lol
- Oct 31, 2025·1 replyBRAVE
You know what’s funny, country was only able to do so this decade initially by using hiphop production. Like Last Night has a f***ing LA rap beat under them guitars for crying out loud lol
Him and Jelly Roll are both failed rappers
- Oct 31, 2025Free YoungBoy
Thank god I don’t associate with anyone like this
Imagine saying “I’m done with rap, imma go listen to Sabrina Carpenter and Luke Combs”
You don't have to associate with anyone for it to be a reality lol. And it doesn't have to mean they stop listening to rap altogether but even just looking at the number, you can tell that rap peaked on streaming between 2017-2021. Since then, many of those people have been spending more time listening to other genres.
- Gosh 😹Oct 31, 2025·1 replyBRAVE
You know what’s funny, country was only able to do so this decade initially by using hiphop production. Like Last Night has a f***ing LA rap beat under them guitars for crying out loud lol
You been tryna tell niggas
Get that west coast bounce back in the music
- Oct 31, 2025·1 replyFree YoungBoy
Sabrina carpenter debuted 2015
Alright?
- Oct 31, 2025·2 repliesTheFader
Alright?
People count her as a “new star” for pop
- Oct 31, 2025·1 replyKayTray
Kanye, Jay, Wayne, and Dr Dre all gave platforms to the superstars of today.
Do you feel like it’s up to Drake, Kendrick, and Cole to do the same? I’m surprised Drake hasn’t found himself some kind of successor. Maybe he doesn’t want one at all. Kendrick did good with Baby Keem but the guy just disappeared on his own.
I feel like Drake has more than played his part in terms of platforming other rappers, a lot more than any of his peers have done. It's not on him to do more.
- goretex 💁🏽♂️Oct 31, 2025·1 replyTheFader
billboard whether u like to admit it or not is clearly changing the rules to hip hop cant be as dominant as it was.
I’m so tired of niggas blaming Billboard bruh.
Where are the new stars?
Where is the new sound?
Where are the hit records?
the whole thing of everyone losing their minds that there isnt a hip hop song in the billboard top whatever is because this s*** all changed lmfaoooooooo
if streams mattered how they used to yb would be in the billboard charts EASILY. but theres songs up there that are being absolutely spammed to radio basically fake hits brah this is exactly how it was in that EDM era hahaha
- Oct 31, 2025·1 replyFree YoungBoy
People count her as a “new star” for pop
It’s a little different because her mainstream career basically did not exist until late 2023; everything was a flop.
Youngboy has been successful commercially since 2018 at the latest
- goretex 💁🏽♂️Oct 31, 2025
also lol yb is the perfect example for the point ive been making for months on this god forsaken forum
TALENT TAKES TIME TO DEVLOP.
- Oct 31, 2025Gosh
You been tryna tell niggas
Get that west coast bounce back in the music
