Debates used to be about which artists had more classics

Now it’s about which artist has sold more records

The Poptification of KTT

Ehh

You’re saying this like MJ didn’t have a crazy fanbase like Taylor currently has lol

MJ lost his biggest market after the allegations, which was his 14th mainstream solo career year.

Taylor started getting bigger and bigger in the US in her 14th year and shows no signs of stopping.

Wasn't that his biggest year in terms of sales?

Not just his biggest year, but the record selling year at the time

That’s not really relevant as no one was comparing who remained hotter in their careers, the post was referring to exploiting one’s fanbase to hike numbers and in order to do that you need a rabid and dedicated fanbase

MJ was the biggest and most impactful pop artist of his day, (if not ever) if he really wanted to do what Taylor did with all of these different variants and the like he definitely could’ve

That's tough. She took that one with ease.

They hate her because she’s the biggest artist of 3 generations. Charli released 40 variants for Brat but it was a “Brat summer” so nobody cared.

They also severely overestimate how many fans are buying multiple copies of an album during a recession.

Just look at the numbers for the eras tour. It says it all. There are millions of swift fans who don’t even buy her music AT ALL. Me included. I have never once bought a Taylor album but I did spend 7k on two tickets for the eras tour.

Yall really can’t even fathom her reach and popularity.

That’s the funny part, everything points to Taylor being the biggest artist ever this decade, she’s got

-The most streams
-The most sales
The biggest tour
-She’s about to surpass Madonna as the best selling female artist ever next week
-will surpass MJ as the best selling solo act within a few years
The Beatle’s record 134 weeks at #1 is reachable for her
-And now will take the biggest album debut, Despite the sales market being dead.

Like she’s demolishing every records that your faves aren’t even close to reaching, so y’all haters should just stfu lol

Remember when R*an M*rphy did this parody of Taylor and her fans in 2015?

Tbh, Taylor and her fans have always been like this... she just gamefied their behavior and buying her albums multiple times became an important part of being a swiftie

Just look at the numbers for the eras tour. It says it all. There are millions of swift fans who don’t even buy her music AT ALL. Me included. I have never once bought a Taylor album but I did spend 7k on two tickets for the eras tour.

This is literally just because of demographics

Taylor doesn’t even have the highest attended tour of all time btw

Taylor Swift started 2025 10 billion streams behind Drake on Spotify

She is currently 10 billion streams behind Drake on Spotify

Bad Bunny will surpass her before she comes within 5B of Drake

I meant most streams as in most streams in a single year. The reason she is behind on Spotify is she wasn’t on Spotify for years, this is pretty well known already.

She will take the overall record at some point

Now adjust for inflation lol

without inflation Harry Potter 1 outgrossed spiderman homecoming, spiderman 2002 and the amazing spiderman 😭

harry potter got a theme park

No she won’t

Bad Bunny didn’t even drop his debut album until 2018 and he’s already #3, he’s gonna be #1 within a year or two

Why you adjusting for inflation for two movies that dropped within months of each other?

Sorcerer’s Stone - November 2001

Spider-Man 1 - May 2002

Also the whole “adjusted for inflation” thing when it comes to movies’ box office is the biggest crock of horseshit that doesn’t mean anything

Harry Potter is an entire universe, Spider-Man is one singular character

A Spider-Man theme park wouldn’t make any logistical sense whatsoever lmao

Once again, this thread initially was a set up by the OP to get Kendrick clowned for the MMTBS release after a few people on Twitter made unrealistic sales predictions.

She still denies this every time I bring this up but people who were around before this got pinned into a mega thread know what I'm talking about.

for it to be a setup, wouldn't she have had to know that mr morale would be a flop? thats quite a foresight

The tweets she reposted had very unrealistic expectations like 600k or 800k fw which everybody knew wasn't expected of him.