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  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Black Smoke

    Luther exists.

    Luther was big but nowhere on the same level as many hits in the 10s

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Black Smoke

    Luther exists.

    thats an exam of a hit that'll be soon forgotten

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Blue Man

    thats an exam of a hit that'll be soon forgotten

    Not really. I go out to lounges, bars, and restaurants regularly and heard Luther all the time. yall don’t go outside and socialize so you missed it

  • Oct 6, 2025
    Black Smoke

    Not really. I go out to lounges, bars, and restaurants regularly and heard Luther all the time. yall don’t go outside and socialize so you missed it

    Same as Espresso and 10 other songs and they're all not on the same level as many hits from the 10s lmao

  • Gosh 😹
    Oct 6, 2025
    mov

    Luther was big but nowhere on the same level as many hits in the 10s

    For people around my age it was huge, Luther vandross is very beloved and this was a great way to pay homage to him in a modern way but also keeping it old school

  • Oct 6, 2025
    Black Smoke

    Not really. I go out to lounges, bars, and restaurants regularly and heard Luther all the time. yall don’t go outside and socialize so you missed it

    cap

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    luther is one of the only two songs to cross 300+ points in 2025, so that's gotta count for something. as it stands, it's looking like only kendrick and taylor will cross that threshold this year (not counting christmas songs).

  • Gosh 😹
    Oct 6, 2025
    serenade

    luther is one of the only two songs to cross 300+ points in 2025, so that's gotta count for something. as it stands, it's looking like only kendrick and taylor will cross that threshold this year (not counting christmas songs).

    It's so interesting to me that Kendrick is one of the only rappers able to shine on the billboard at a time when it seems very difficult for rappers, even for Drake and his new music

    But he's not taking advantage of it and spamming new music like most artists with this many eyes on them would

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    serenade

    luther is one of the only two songs to cross 300+ points in 2025, so that's gotta count for something. as it stands, it's looking like only kendrick and taylor will cross that threshold this year (not counting christmas songs).

    once radio plays started mattering again, i stopped taking the points thing seriously

  • Oct 6, 2025
    serenade

    labels will freak out and cry if billboard bans variants because that means almost none of their artists will do 200k+ ever again and they won't be able to mask the decline of the music industry.

    They were mad when Billboard changed the digital album rules

  • Gosh 😹
    Oct 6, 2025
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    Blue Man

    once radio plays started mattering again, i stopped taking the points thing seriously

    If enough people wanted to hear Drake on the radio, he would have radio play

    Most of his fanbase is just online now

  • Oct 6, 2025
    quadra

    I'd guess other things
    Certain listeners have made the shift and then there's some that haven't
    Taylor's fans still obsessed with her, their attention and allegiance is to her so she's doing well
    But I feel like hip-hop fans' attention is more broken up, they listen to a lot of podcast, watch streamers, things of that nature that leads to less music consumption

    Makes sense.

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Mafia Boss
    https://twitter.com/lippredicts/status/1975261861873656243

    EXACTLY.

    This is exactly why it’s laughable when people try to compare her to Michael Jackson

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    mov

    "where every artist gives fans a million different things to buy now"

    uhhh.. no? It's literally just artists like Taylor or Travis who are doing this in a massive way

    Nah, pretty much any major artist who’s ever cleared 200K+ first week are doing the ton of variants thing. Just at different scales

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Midzy

    Did anyone complain about this?

    Yeah I literally asked why were rap fans not bringing up their bundles when they did 200K

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Black Smoke

    Luther exists.

    Exactly. I would say that’s only ONE really good example for the 20s and we are almost in 2026 🥀💔

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    TheFader

    Yeah I literally asked why were rap fans not bringing up their bundles when they did 200K

    Rap fans outside of Drake fanbase don’t really care about sales fr. Especially for a 21 pilots album

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Honestly, when I think hits from the 10s, a song that matches that energy in the 20s is NLU. As much as it pains me to admit that lol.

  • Oct 6, 2025
    SABMAN TURNT

    we need to have an overhaul where we no longer count physical copies anymore

    how many streams did the album do first week? that gets rid of the fake variant sales

    Nah, physical sales will always be important and physical media should always be celebrated. Two things need to happen:

    1. Billboard needs to set a hard limit on how many variants & deluxe editions can count towards an album’s sales. I think 5 is a decent number to set it at.

    2. Sales & streams need to be kept entirely separate. There should be no such thing as “streaming equivalent units”. There should only be how many copies your album sold first week, and how many times it was streamed. I think that would get rid of a lot of the gimmicks that we see now

  • Oct 6, 2025
    serenade

    labels will freak out and cry if billboard bans variants because that means almost none of their artists will do 200k+ ever again and they won't be able to mask the decline of the music industry.

    Then the labels and artists need to get creative and either take a stand against streaming or go back to the days of 2015 and 2016 when artists were straight up saying f*** streaming altogether. Taylor Swift is big enough to still sell a million first week without streaming, let’s see what she would do if all she did was release an iTunes link and a single vinyl copy

  • Oct 6, 2025
    ICEMAN40

    I wonder where the decline comes from? Is it a Covid thing??

    Streaming. The answer has always been streaming

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Black Smoke

    Luther exists.

    I love luther but it’s nowhere near as ubiquitous as some massive 2010s hits

  • Oct 6, 2025
    ICEMAN40

    Honestly, when I think hits from the 10s, a song that matches that energy in the 20s is NLU. As much as it pains me to admit that lol.

    Not Like Us is the only MAJOR rap hit of the 2020s. There simply has not been another one.

  • Oct 6, 2025
    ICEMAN40

    Exactly. I would say that’s only ONE really good example for the 20s and we are almost in 2026 🥀💔

    Birds of a feather too

  • Oct 6, 2025

    she getting the jordan rules 🥹

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