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  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Mafia Boss

    I disagree as @fader says its the same people buying the album 20 times. For someone like Taylor the people who bought now would have bought it in 2015 but she wasnt be as desperate for breaking records and have 80 versions to buy. This multiple versions s*** only works when you have stans. Pre streaming people usually bough main album or target version or deluxe. Very rarely did people 30 of the same albums.

    Taylor makes music for people who buy 15 different editions of the same book they'll never crack open, and that's not hyperbole

  • Oct 6, 2025
    Expert

    i bet on this doing over 100M streams first week

    Love to see it. Easy money!

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    Actually Romantic: 360 points

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    kasich2032

    again, she has record amount of unique listeners on release week, it was 13 million on spotify a lone last time, this time will be even higher. if those people doesnt have the option to stream, and had to buy physicals like in the 2010s, then she'd get much higher than just 3m. she wasnt nearly as big back in the 2010s though.

    You’re forgetting the fact that streaming is a passive form of support, and there are plenty of people (myself included) who only listened to the album just to see how it was because of how already-popular she is.

    Ten years ago, I wouldn’t have bought this album to hear it.

    And again, I still don’t know how you can act like her historic sales are not mostly due to the fact that her fans buy her physicals multiple times over. Nobody did this for 25 when it dropped in 2015:

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    Also, it’s funny that you mention the “unique listeners” thing, because, despite her meteoric peak in popularity this decade, she has only led Spotify in monthly listeners for three months out of this entire decade:

    • November 2022
    • November 2023
    • December 2023

    I think this is further proof that her first week sales totals are heavily bolstered by hundreds of thousands of fans that buy multiple copies of the same album to collect every variant.

    Her peak monthly listeners total is 116M, which is 5th all-time on the platform, behind Bruno Mars (151M), The Weeknd (126M), Lady Gaga (124M), and Ariana Grande (123M)

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    I feel like Ophelia could actually be a hit with staying power and not just another mickey mouse hit but we'll see

  • SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻
    Oct 6, 2025
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    Blue Man

    When not like us was popping and gnx came out, Kendrick fans were posting and bragging about every espn stat out there. Now that his numbers are dropping, hip hop fans supposedly don’t care about sales. You’re not fooling anyone

    yes, to make fun of Drake fans who actually do care about those numbers

    it was always very obvious if you weren’t one of the Drake fans who cares about numbers

  • SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻
    Oct 6, 2025
    goretex

    Let’s be real

    Everyone likes talking numbers when they artist doin numbers

    sure, as a nice cherry on top

    anything other than that, pop stan

  • SABMAN TURNT 🧔🏻
    Oct 6, 2025
    Harlem

    rap fans don't seriously care about sales is a crazy statement to me

    especially when rap artists themselves probably care the most about sales out of any genre artist and put it on wax consistently. the fans care by extension and because the genre is so competitive by nature

    notice how the only people agreeing with you on this stan rappers turned popstars

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Dead at the thread title never updating for Taylor

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    SABMAN TURNT

    yes, to make fun of Drake fans who actually do care about those numbers

    it was always very obvious if you weren’t one of the Drake fans who cares about numbers

    Well I’m gonna keep posting about numbers to make fun of Kendrick fans since that’s a valid reason to you. If they don’t care about sales, it shouldn’t bother them

  • Oct 6, 2025
    quadra

    Dead at the thread title never updating for Taylor

    but gets updated for morgan wallen

  • Oct 6, 2025
    John Mauve

    I feel like Ophelia could actually be a hit with staying power and not just another mickey mouse hit but we'll see

    Ngl it’s probably the most deserving #1 hit in a while. Song is pop perfection.

    I wonder if she could try and push for another #1 song from the album after tho. Feel like Wood could be a hit 🤔

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    Blue Man

    Well I’m gonna keep posting about numbers to make fun of Kendrick fans since that’s a valid reason to you. If they don’t care about sales, it shouldn’t bother them

    I don’t think anyone is bothered by anything you post

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    TheFader

    You’re forgetting the fact that streaming is a passive form of support, and there are plenty of people (myself included) who only listened to the album just to see how it was because of how already-popular she is.

    Ten years ago, I wouldn’t have bought this album to hear it.

    And again, I still don’t know how you can act like her historic sales are not mostly due to the fact that her fans buy her physicals multiple times over. Nobody did this for 25 when it dropped in 2015:

    https://twitter.com/thebianca__/status/1974933378001760476

    Her streams for this album and her last album are slightly higher than scorpion.

    Drake did about 200k streaming units with views so lets say she does 300k streaming units then the rest would be pure sales i dont see her doing over 2 million without a bunch of versions.

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    I’m amused at the things you post.

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    Mafia Boss

    Her streams for this album and her last album are slightly higher than scorpion.

    Drake did about 200k streaming units with views so lets say she does 300k streaming units then the rest would be pure sales i dont see her doing over 2 million without a bunch of versions.

    ?

    Showgirl is predicted to debut with around 700M US streams, which would be a little less than Scorpion’s 745M

  • Gosh 😹
    Oct 6, 2025
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    Blue Man

    Well I’m gonna keep posting about numbers to make fun of Kendrick fans since that’s a valid reason to you. If they don’t care about sales, it shouldn’t bother them

    Why would Sab give a s***

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    I guess man

  • Oct 6, 2025
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    Gosh

    Why would Sab give a s***

    Sab out here still defending Thug in his sleep

  • Gosh 😹
    Oct 6, 2025
    mov

    Sab out here still defending Thug in his sleep

    Exactly, brother still on thug support

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    Free YoungBoy

    I’m amused at the things you post.

    Bro deleted the post lol

  • Gosh 😹
    Oct 6, 2025
    Free YoungBoy

    Bro deleted the post lol

    I've seen that happen to you a few times recently, you must got these niggas in shambles

  • Oct 6, 2025
    quadra

    Dead at the thread title never updating for Taylor

    I'll do that tomorrow.

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