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  • Sep 2, 2025
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    mangotflu
    of songs is completely irrelevant, morgan is destroying kendrick even though kendrick has much larger songs

    He’s literally not, the main reason for the wide gap is the number of songs. That’s literally it

  • Sep 2, 2025
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    TheFader

    Album cuts don’t reign supreme though because the Top 50 streamed songs of the year are all singles or the most popular songs on albums

    20 songs getting 100m streams each > 1 song getting 1b and 19 getting 20m

  • Sep 2, 2025
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    mangotflu

    one of the most successful albums of all time

    please stop man, this is embarrassing
    you're grouping it with thriller lmao

    How many albums can you name that sold almost 3M copies in one week and went halfway Diamond in 8 months?

    Name me 10 albums that fit that criteria

  • Sep 2, 2025
    TheFader

    He’s literally not, the main reason for the wide gap is the number of songs. That’s literally it

    this is like saying messi only scores more goals than other players because they play less games

  • Sep 2, 2025
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    TheFader

    How many albums can you name that sold almost 3M copies in one week and went halfway Diamond in 8 months?

    Name me 10 albums that fit that criteria

    Name me 1 other album in history that went half way diamond in 8 months and then a year later wasn't even a top 20 album

    she completely played the charts

  • Sep 2, 2025
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    mangotflu

    20 songs getting 100m streams each > 1 song getting 1b and 19 getting 20m

    I’m glad you said this so I can break it down in simple math equations so you can see how you’re wrong.

    Morgan Wallen - I’m the Problem:

    • Total of 4.1B Streams in 2025
    • 4.1B divided by 37 songs = Average of 110M per song
    • Top 3 highest streamed songs combined for 1.067B streams
    • 4.1B minus 1.067B = 3.033B
    • 3.033B divided by the remaining 34 songs = Average of 89M per song for the “non-hits” of the album

    Kendrick Lamar - GNX:

    • Total of 2B Streams in 2025
    • 2B divided by 12 songs = Average of 166M per song
    • Top 3 highest streamed songs combined for 1.284B streams
    • 2B minus 1.284B = 716M
    • 716M divided by the remaining 9 songs = Average of 79M per song for the “non-hits” of the album

    Assuming that GNX had additional 25 songs to match I’m the Problem and they fell into the “non-hit” category, 79M multiplied by 25 = 1.975M. Which would bring the total for GNX exactly to 4B streams. Basically the exact same amount as I’m the Problem.

    Nobody is denying Morgan Wallen is popular. He sells out stadiums, I’d be a fool to say he wasn’t popular. But sitting here and acting like his yearly stream count isn’t heavily inflated by his tracklist lengths is just flat out wrong. I’m the Problem would have nowhere near 4B streams in four months if it was only 12 tracks like an album like GNX.

  • Sep 2, 2025
    mangotflu

    Name me 1 other album in history that went half way diamond in 8 months and then a year later wasn't even a top 20 album

    she completely played the charts

    I’m not saying she didn’t use predatory tactics to sell more overall units, but the fact of the matter is that they still sold

  • Sep 2, 2025
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    TheFader

    Drake be botting too

    Weeknd be botting

    All these niggas bot, you’d be a fool to think otherwise

    We all remember you calling bots a deranged conspiracy theory btw

  • Sep 2, 2025
    Midzy

    We all remember you calling bots a deranged conspiracy theory btw

    I never said that. I said that Kendrick’s numbers were not ALL bots like some tried to claim they are. I also said that the reason numbers were down for new music was not ONLY Spotify cutting down on botting, like some of y’all said it was.

    I be saying s*** clear as day and y’all still try to misinterpret my words somehow. I’ve never once claimed that botting didn’t exist in streaming. That’s one of the reasons I’m anti-streaming because I’ve always been vocal about how it’s so easily manipulated

  • Sep 2, 2025
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    Speaking of bots tbt when that Carti album lost 7m streams randomly one day

  • Sep 2, 2025
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    TheFader

    I’m glad you said this so I can break it down in simple math equations so you can see how you’re wrong.

    Morgan Wallen - I’m the Problem:

    • Total of 4.1B Streams in 2025
    • 4.1B divided by 37 songs = Average of 110M per song
    • Top 3 highest streamed songs combined for 1.067B streams
    • 4.1B minus 1.067B = 3.033B
    • 3.033B divided by the remaining 34 songs = Average of 89M per song for the “non-hits” of the album

    Kendrick Lamar - GNX:

    • Total of 2B Streams in 2025
    • 2B divided by 12 songs = Average of 166M per song
    • Top 3 highest streamed songs combined for 1.284B streams
    • 2B minus 1.284B = 716M
    • 716M divided by the remaining 9 songs = Average of 79M per song for the “non-hits” of the album

    Assuming that GNX had additional 25 songs to match I’m the Problem and they fell into the “non-hit” category, 79M multiplied by 25 = 1.975M. Which would bring the total for GNX exactly to 4B streams. Basically the exact same amount as I’m the Problem.

    Nobody is denying Morgan Wallen is popular. He sells out stadiums, I’d be a fool to say he wasn’t popular. But sitting here and acting like his yearly stream count isn’t heavily inflated by his tracklist lengths is just flat out wrong. I’m the Problem would have nowhere near 4B streams in four months if it was only 12 tracks like an album like GNX.

    Are you seriously assuming people would stream a 37 track album exactly 3x more than a 12 track album?

    sour has 15b streams with 11 tracks, would it have 45b with 33 tracks?

  • Sep 2, 2025
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    Midzy

    Speaking of bots tbt when that Carti album lost 7m streams randomly one day

    I knew Carti botted when All Red, a mid Future song, debuted with almost 8 million streams on spotify. That was blatant af. Apparently he works with the same digital promoter as kendrick so not surprising there

  • Sep 2, 2025
    Midzy

    We all remember you calling bots a deranged conspiracy theory btw

    Lmaoo

  • Gosh 😹
    Sep 2, 2025
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    Midzy

    We all remember you calling bots a deranged conspiracy theory btw

    He never said that

    Bot farms have been a thing since forever, its a reason why nobody gave a f*** about drakes streaming numbers to begin with, its just hilariously ironic that it took Drake losing a rap battle for yall to acknowledge them

    That's also not the reason Drake lost the battle, nobody denied the existence of bots in general tho

  • Sep 2, 2025
    Midzy

    We all remember you calling bots a deranged conspiracy theory btw

  • Sep 2, 2025
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    Gosh

    He never said that

    Bot farms have been a thing since forever, its a reason why nobody gave a f*** about drakes streaming numbers to begin with, its just hilariously ironic that it took Drake losing a rap battle for yall to acknowledge them

    That's also not the reason Drake lost the battle, nobody denied the existence of bots in general tho

    You TheFader's keeper? Lol

  • Gosh 😹
    Sep 2, 2025
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    quadra

    You TheFader's keeper? Lol

    wym?

  • Sep 2, 2025
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    Blue Man

    I knew Carti botted when All Red, a mid Future song, debuted with almost 8 million streams on spotify. That was blatant af. Apparently he works with the same digital promoter as kendrick so not surprising there

    -19 million

  • Sep 2, 2025
    Gosh

    wym?

    Ily

  • Sep 2, 2025
    mangotflu

    Are you seriously assuming people would stream a 37 track album exactly 3x more than a 12 track album?

    sour has 15b streams with 11 tracks, would it have 45b with 33 tracks?

    That’s not what I’m saying at all, actually. What I’m saying is these Morgan Wallen album numbers are heavily inflated by the tracklist length. You just said that Morgan’s albums have been streamed double the amount of Kendrick’s this year, and you’re acting like the 60-song difference between each artists’ projects just doesn’t contribute to that massive gap whatsoever.

    I just proved to you that on a per song basis, their best selling albums this year are performing relatively similarly

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    quadra

    You TheFader's keeper? Lol

    They in group chat thinking about what to post

  • Sep 2, 2025
    quadra

    You TheFader's keeper? Lol

    You're the biggest d***sucker on here man what are you on about

  • Sep 2, 2025
    Midzy
    https://twitter.com/PloybertCorti/status/1837223642884948359

    -19 million

    Billboard filtering bots. all that for 20 million streams first week 😭

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