Hilarious that you can’t understand what the idea of an exception to a rule is. I don’t really care about the longterm performance of an album that sold 5M units in 8 months.
Some of y’all have absolutely ridiculous expectations for these artists man. Niggas calling an album that moved 5M units in 8 months a massive flop, what are we even talking about anymore
Why has it fallen off so fast then? if it was so huge, and has so many tracks? Using your logic from a few pages ago, it shouldn't have fallen off at all.
and yeah no one's remembering TTPD in 10 years
Why has it fallen off so fast then? if it was so huge, and has so many tracks? Using your logic from a few pages ago, it shouldn't have fallen off at all.
and yeah no one's remembering TTPD in 10 years
My logic was that Morgan Wallen is incapable of releasing a hugely commercially successful album unless it is 30+ tracks. The evidence of this being that all three of his hugely successful albums are 33+ tracks each.
What the f*** does a Taylor Swift album have to do with any of those words?
Now you saying nobody’s gonna remember an album that sold 5M units in 8 months in the streaming era
You have lost your mind
My logic was that Morgan Wallen is incapable of releasing a hugely commercially successful album unless it is 30+ tracks. The evidence of this being that all three of his hugely successful albums are 33+ tracks each.
What the f*** does a Taylor Swift album have to do with any of those words?
Now you saying nobody’s gonna remember an album that sold 5M units in 8 months in the streaming era
You have lost your mind
You used the same silly logic for SZA lol
dumbing down great projects to "lol it has so many tracks thats why!"
You used the same silly logic for SZA lol
dumbing down great projects to "lol it has so many tracks thats why!"
Nobody’s dumbing anything down. The project could be great, yes, but that doesn’t change the fact that the only reason that SOS is still in the Top 5 for 2025 is because SZA tacked on 19 more songs to the album so it’s essentially a 42 song double album release counting as one single release on the charts
It’s literally simple math. More songs = more streams. If you add 19 songs onto an already massively successful album, what do you think that’s gonna do to its numbers?
If Drake added 20 more songs to Certified Lover Boy right now, it shoot back up to #1 on the chart and end the year Top 10 in sales
It’s literally simple math. More songs = more streams. If you add 19 songs onto an already massively successful album, what do you think that’s gonna do to its numbers?
If Drake added 20 more songs to Certified Lover Boy right now, it shoot back up to #1 on the chart and end the year Top 10 in sales
So again, I ask. What happened with TTPD? 31 tracks. Almost everyone would have told you she's the biggest artist in the US just a year ago. Huge amount of streams/sales in 2024.
Now everyone has seemingly dropped it. Why? why didn't the 31 tracks boost her longterm?
People didn't drop Morgan's bloated albums. Or SOS. Why TTPD?
So again, I ask. What happened with TTPD? 31 tracks. Almost everyone would have told you she's the biggest artist in the US just a year ago. Huge amount of streams/sales in 2024.
Now everyone has seemingly dropped it. Why? why didn't the 31 tracks boost her longterm?
People didn't drop Morgan's bloated albums. Or SOS. Why TTPD?
The album wasn’t that good. Her fans don’t like it that much. That doesn’t make it a massive flop.
Morgan’s fans enjoy his bloated country albums. SZA fans enjoy SOS.
You’re not even making a point you’re pointing at the sky and calling it blue
The album wasn’t that good. Her fans don’t like it that much. That doesn’t make it a massive flop.
Morgan’s fans enjoy his bloated country albums. SZA fans enjoy SOS.
You’re not even making a point you’re pointing at the sky and calling it blue
4.1b streams first year though? Her fans must have loved it..
It has to be the biggest stream fall off of all time, probably the biggest pures fall off too. I genuinely don't get how an album can go from being one of the most listened to albums ever, to so much less so quickly. It's completely abnormal and that's why I definitely view it as a longterm flop
The album wasn’t that good. Her fans don’t like it that much. That doesn’t make it a massive flop.
Morgan’s fans enjoy his bloated country albums. SZA fans enjoy SOS.
You’re not even making a point you’re pointing at the sky and calling it blue
My point is pretty much that you thinking # of songs is so important doesn't really add up considering the performance of a lot of these short albums v long albums.
SOUR and Short n Sweet are like 12 tracks and have outperformed all Weeknd, Drake, Travis, Taylor Swift albums this decade.
My point is pretty much that you thinking # of songs is so important doesn't really add up considering the performance of a lot of these short albums v long albums.
SOUR and Short n Sweet are like 12 tracks and have outperformed all Weeknd, Drake, Travis, Taylor Swift albums this decade.
The number of tracks on an album really only matters in the first week of release. More songs = a higher chance of amassing more streams and even that rule isn't set in stone because look at someone like Chris Brown who has released 4 consecutive solo albums, each with at least 35 songs and his streaming numbers are still mediocre/ basically non-existent. Look at Gunna's latest album which has 25 songs but didn't do any sort of damage streaming-wise.
It's not an exact science that having a lot of songs on your album will lead to a massive streaming debut, neither does it mean that the album will keep performing well in the long term: everything boils down to continued and sustained interest in the music on your album, whether that's 10 tracks or 20 tracks. Billie Eilish's latest album is already her best-performing album ever despite having fewer tracks than her debut (14 tracks) or sophomore album (16 tracks).
4.1b streams first year though? Her fans must have loved it..
It has to be the biggest stream fall off of all time, probably the biggest pures fall off too. I genuinely don't get how an album can go from being one of the most listened to albums ever, to so much less so quickly. It's completely abnormal and that's why I definitely view it as a longterm flop
Where are you getting your numbers from? TTPD is on 8.5B after 16 months, and it’s keeping daily pace with SOS, which just got a re-issue, including a whole other album on top of it less than a year ago.
Always the acts I’ve never heard of or played that is doing numbers. What in the world is a stray kid
This is what it looks like when your recent music is just as iconic as your back catalog
You are delusional if you don’t think every artist that has ever sold at least 100K+ first week has used bots in some capacity.
i would 100% bet my life wayne never used bots to stream his albums.
i would 100% bet my life wayne never used bots to stream his albums.
Someone on his team might’ve
Now every artist must be using bots because the Weeknd/XO have gotten exposed as using them
I think funniest part is thug talked about bots to go #1 for his album but he didnt go #1.
Then for gunna they dropped mid week deluxe which is why it was pushed over the weekend.
even if they bought streams i dont think they counted
Someone on his team might’ve
disgree. the numbers arnt high enough and there was no competition in his release dates to have a motive.
Don't see that anywhere on the HDD site