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  • May 21, 2022
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    cold mountain

    they also sing though, but because the songs that they sing on don't chart, they aren't pop stars

    No, they do have songs where they’re singing that chart, but they’re still rappers.

    No one’s saying Doja isn’t a rapper because her hits aren’t rap. She’s not a rapper because the majority of her music is rooted in pop.

  • May 21, 2022
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    cold mountain

    https://www.complex.com/music/doja-cat-is-a-rapper/3

    "The industry is flooded with artists who sing and rap, but male artists aren’t having any trouble being considered rappers (sometimes to their dismay). On the flipside, Doja Cat is a prime example of genre-bending women who’re primarily being labeled singers."

    maybe we need a new term like pop-rapper?

  • May 21, 2022
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    DonutHole

    i just told u her woman song is obviously not her sound (it's afro beat turned into pop music)

    that song that went viral on tiktok with the naked dancing (forgot the challenge name lol) was clearly a trapsoul beat,

    here someone made a similar beat to it (I searched doja cat type beat, clicked on this and was instantly reminded of that song "like yooouuuu whooaa")

    u think doja invented afro beats, trapsoul and 808s????

    im asking you for examples of her sound

  • May 21, 2022
    VeggieKubernetes

    Say it with your chest

    Sports

  • May 21, 2022
    cold mountain

    because people don't like doja around here whether it's racial chatroom nonsense or a dislike for her personality

    I’m not talking about KTT. I’m saying anywhere music discussion is had online period.

    Every time I see a conversation about women in rap, I NEVER see Doja’s name, because people know she’s a pop singer

  • May 21, 2022
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    DonutHole

    maybe we need a new term like pop-rapper?

    that's not even a new term that's what i was getting at when i told this dumbass that everything isn't as simple as "not rap and rap"

    drake is considered a pop rapper, no?

  • May 21, 2022
    DonutHole

    maybe we need a new term like pop-rapper?

    I would call Drake a pop rapper, but he’s still a rapper

  • May 21, 2022
    cold mountain

    im asking you for examples of her sound

    I told u she don't have one (yet), she makes whatever is hot atm with pop prod

  • May 21, 2022
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    cold mountain

    that's not even a new term that's what i was getting at when i told this dumbass that everything isn't as simple as "not rap and rap"

    drake is considered a pop rapper, no?

    Yes. Pop rooted in rap music.

    Doja makes “rap” rooted in pop music.

  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    No, they do have songs where they’re singing that chart, but they’re still rappers.

    No one’s saying Doja isn’t a rapper because her hits aren’t rap. She’s not a rapper because the majority of her music is rooted in pop.

    and im again, telling you, that her music features rapping on it, so i dont see how it's rooted in pop

  • May 21, 2022
    cold mountain

    https://www.complex.com/music/doja-cat-is-a-rapper/3

    "The industry is flooded with artists who sing and rap, but male artists aren’t having any trouble being considered rappers (sometimes to their dismay). On the flipside, Doja Cat is a prime example of genre-bending women who’re primarily being labeled singers."

    Lol no. Flo Rida, Pitbull, and Black Eyed Peas also got lots of pushback too.

    Any rapper who relies on Pop hits and Pop audience as much as Doja has gotten pushback

  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    Yes. Pop rooted in rap music.

    Doja makes “rap” rooted in pop music.

    so then she's a rapper, glad we sorted that out

  • May 21, 2022
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    cold mountain

    and im again, telling you, that her music features rapping on it, so i dont see how it's rooted in pop

    By that logic Ed Sheeran is a rapper.

    To which you’ll say, “does it primarily have rapping?”

    To which I’ll respond, “no, and neither does Doja’s”

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  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    By that logic Ed Sheeran is a rapper.

    To which you’ll say, “does it primarily have rapping?”

    To which I’ll respond, “no, and neither does Doja’s”

    well we're not getting anywhere then it is what it is

  • May 21, 2022
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    cold mountain

    that's not even a new term that's what i was getting at when i told this dumbass that everything isn't as simple as "not rap and rap"

    drake is considered a pop rapper, no?

    my bad lol
    she's a pop-rapper at best then
    she signed to drluke when she was a teenager, that's dr LUKE not dr DRE

  • May 21, 2022
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    cold mountain

    so then she's a rapper, glad we sorted that out

    She’s not a rapper. She’s a pop singer who incorporates rap elements into her music.

    DaBaby is another good example of a pop rapper

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    cold mountain

    and im again, telling you, that her music features rapping on it, so i dont see how it's rooted in pop

    her music is POP on which she raps and sings

  • May 21, 2022
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    DonutHole

    my bad lol
    she's a pop-rapper at best then
    she signed to drluke when she was a teenager, that's dr LUKE not dr DRE

    she was releasing music on soundcloud as a teenager that was primarily rap, her projects are mainly rap too

  • May 21, 2022
    DonutHole

    her music is POP on which she raps and sings

    I don’t understand why he can’t grasp this concept

  • May 21, 2022
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    DonutHole

    her music is POP on which she raps and sings

    so then that makes her a rapper

  • May 21, 2022
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    shaleirose

    She’s not a rapper. She’s a pop singer who incorporates rap elements into her music.

    DaBaby is another good example of a pop rapper

    Dababy a pop rapper

  • May 21, 2022
    cold mountain

    so then that makes her a rapper

    Not whatsoever

  • May 21, 2022
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    Theory

    Dababy a pop rapper

    Yeah I think that’s the best way to label him. He doesn’t really fit into any one sub genre of rap besides pop rap honestly

  • May 21, 2022
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    By the logic “she raps on her songs so she’s a rapper”, that means The Weeknd is also a rapper, but NO ONE ever calls him that

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