The fact that your comp is Lorde, one of the most famous pop singers of her era. Just proves my point. These guys are on that same level
and on top of that we talking international reach and bro links washing square park in lets see.... the US
like 2 years ago the nigga kai shut down union square just cus he was there and hes only gotten bigger since then lol

dont even bother bro some people just got there boots dug into the ground with this streamer s***, they dont realize that the reach these guys have was done in under 5 years. theres not a single artist that debutted post 2020 that has the pull these top streamers have and its fax. they compare their fame to established artist 10-15+ years into the game
and on top of that we talking international reach and bro links washing square park in lets see.... the US
like 2 years ago the nigga kai shut down union square just cus he was there and hes only gotten bigger since then lol
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSAEQSJiP8cdont even bother bro some people just got there boots dug into the ground with this streamer s***, they dont realize that the reach these guys have was done in under 5 years. theres not a single artist that debutted post 2020 that has the pull these top streamers have and its fax. they compare their fame to established artist 10-15+ years into the game
I swear you niggas only care about marketing stunts from artists you hate
This was such contrived outrage
and on top of that we talking international reach and bro links washing square park in lets see.... the US
like 2 years ago the nigga kai shut down union square just cus he was there and hes only gotten bigger since then lol
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSAEQSJiP8cdont even bother bro some people just got there boots dug into the ground with this streamer s***, they dont realize that the reach these guys have was done in under 5 years. theres not a single artist that debutted post 2020 that has the pull these top streamers have and its fax. they compare their fame to established artist 10-15+ years into the game
They see streaming as slop content that’s bad for our youth to be consuming and I agree but you can’t deny the impact these kids have. You have world leaders appearing on these streams
No he’s way bigger than Lorde. Like I said yesterday speed and Kai are probably bigger than every pop star right now
Despite it costing nothing to see the guy, none of the crowds you've posted are enough people to fill up even half an arena.
So the 2025 Lorde comparison is me being generous lol.
Despite it costing nothing to see the guy, none of the crowds you've posted are enough people to fill up even half an arena.
So the 2025 Lorde comparison is me being generous lol.
They have triple the capacity of an arena tune in to their streams daily and probably just as many who pay to be members or however twitch does it.
They don’t have to tour the same way musicians have to in order to make money
They have triple the capacity of an arena tune in to their streams daily and probably just as many who pay to be members or however twitch does it.
They don’t have to tour the same way musicians have to in order to make money
So you spent an hour posting about crowds just to backtrack
45k people tuning into a free stream is only impressive in the streaming world.
It happened to Lorde like last month, they had to shut it down. Now imagine Drake or Kenny telling people to gather in some park
https://twitter.com/thekrodd/status/1914823594930057514ngl i don't think a mass gathering in NYC is that much of an indicator of anything relatively
ngl i don't think a mass gathering in NYC is that much of an indicator of anything relatively
like it's partially the reason i don't get impressed when niggas sell out ONE night in MSG
even tho i do think lorde is doing fine rn or whatever
So you spent an hour posting about crowds just to backtrack
45k people tuning into a free stream is only impressive in the streaming world.
It’s more impactful for advertising than it is for anything with real cultural impact
Vine creators drew crowds too, I couldn’t move around in Chicago back in the day and was surprised the reason was a vine person
So you spent an hour posting about crowds just to backtrack
45k people tuning into a free stream is only impressive in the streaming world.
It’s more like 90-150k tbh
Also I never backtracked. It’s just a stupid point by you. “They couldn’t sell out arenas” okay they aren’t in the business of even trying to do that so it’s irrelevant.
You’re taking my statement too literally.
I’m saying they are the closest that we have today.
Look at the s*** speed is doing, look at the crowds he draws globally, the language and culture barriers he breaks. Thats some Michael Jackson type s***.
look at the crowds he draws
My mistake, it was 4 hours ago is when you first mentioned crowds
Now it's a stupid point by me? And nobody mentioned selling out arenas.. just comparing the size of the crowd. Close the stream and open a book
look at the crowds he draws
My mistake, it was 4 hours ago is when you first mentioned crowds
Now it's a stupid point by me? And nobody mentioned selling out arenas.. just comparing the size of the crowd. Close the stream and open a book
I already told you I don’t watch steams cracker
Ahh you mad
I’m not mad. It’s just annoying you playing these dumb ass semantics games to defend these lame ass pop stars you listen to.
Just mad that the niggas got more motion off streaming
and on top of that we talking international reach and bro links washing square park in lets see.... the US
like 2 years ago the nigga kai shut down union square just cus he was there and hes only gotten bigger since then lol
!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSAEQSJiP8cdont even bother bro some people just got there boots dug into the ground with this streamer s***, they dont realize that the reach these guys have was done in under 5 years. theres not a single artist that debutted post 2020 that has the pull these top streamers have and its fax. they compare their fame to established artist 10-15+ years into the game
Let us know when any of these guys fills up a stadium for paying customers
They have triple the capacity of an arena tune in to their streams daily and probably just as many who pay to be members or however twitch does it.
They don’t have to tour the same way musicians have to in order to make money
Most of their viewership is free. It costs absolutely nothing to watch a stream
Most of their viewership is free. It costs absolutely nothing to watch a stream
Kai has 122k paid subs.
Kai has 122k paid subs.
Kendrick and SZA did more than that in three stadium shows
Kendrick and SZA did more than that in three stadium shows
Streamers aren’t in the business of selling out venues so it’s silly to judge them by that same rubric. Also you’re comparing two people to one guy
I’m not mad. It’s just annoying you playing these dumb ass semantics games to defend these lame ass pop stars you listen to.
Just mad that the niggas got more motion off streaming
My first posts about this were about Drake and Kenny being bigger then those bums you watch
You're the one who brought up Olivia Rodrigo
Look nobody is saying streamers aren’t popular. Obviously they are.
The point is they will never be more popular than the most popular musicians or actors or athletes.
It’s fast food cheap entertainment targeted towards kids. Once their audience grows up, they’ll move on. And once their next internet trend shows up, they’ll move on.
It’s no different from 2010s YouTubers and influencers and vloggers. David Dobrik was on top of the internet world at one point and not even ten years later he’s irrelevant
Streamers aren’t in the business of selling out venues so it’s silly to judge them by that same rubric. Also you’re comparing two people to one guy
Okay, I can name so many more solo musicians or actors that reach more than 122K paying customers
My first posts about this were about Drake and Kenny being bigger then those bums you watch
You're the one who brought up Olivia Rodrigo
No you’re first post about this was some snarky passive aggressive comment towards me watching streamers when I already said I didn’t
Okay, I can name so many more solo musicians or actors that reach more than 122K paying customers
Not every month and not for the same amount of effort put forth