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  • Jun 3, 2025
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    mangotflu

    Tiktok is more a s*** ton of microinfluencers tbh, there aren't really any huge celebrities coming out of it anymore. But there's an endless amount of micro celebrities coming out of it, that all fall off after a few years

    Tiktok is where all the trends come from though. Trends don't really start in music anymore.

    Streaming yeah

    I think Speed is bigger than any music artist from even 2018. He's 100% bigger than Billie Eilish, Morgan, etc

    Yeah Speed was legitimately the most famous teenager in the world other than maybe Lamine Yamal

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    mangotflu

    i'd just rather watch tiktok instead of listen to music tbh, that's how it seems to be for many many people thesedays

    Nigga saying this on a music forum lmao

    Why do y’all even post on here

  • Gosh 😹
    Jun 3, 2025
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    deleteduser579

    Nigga saying this on a music forum lmao

    Why do y’all even post on here

    Nigga needs to take his ass to a TikTok forum

  • Jun 3, 2025
    Gosh

    Nigga needs to take his ass to a TikTok forum

    They don't even know what a forum is man lmao

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    mangotflu

    hard to love it these days when most new releases are ass tbh

    it's why so many cultural moments are happening on tiktok/other apps instead of in music now

    music as a whole is losing its cultural influence due to tiktok+music being as

    I’m glad you’re admitting that you don’t actually care about music (or anything, really) unless it feels like you’re a part of something larger

    Makes sense why you went from a soulless Bad Bunny d***sucker to a Papi’s Angel in the span of a couple months

  • This thread really is like Saturday night cartoons or like a morning newspaper

    Always someone itt on some dumb s***

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    Yeah Speed was legitimately the most famous teenager in the world other than maybe Lamine Yamal

    Speed did two very smart decisions:

    • decided to be a Ronaldo stan and got in touch with the football youth all over the world

    • decided to travel around the world

    He's way bigger than Kai

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    mov

    Speed did two very smart decisions:

    • decided to be a Ronaldo stan and got in touch with the football youth all over the world

    • decided to travel around the world

    He's way bigger than Kai

    Yeah he’s a smart kid. One of the greatest grifters of all time

  • Gosh 😹
    Jun 3, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    Yeah he’s a smart kid. One of the greatest grifters of all time

    That Ronaldo grift working really blew my mind ngl

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    Gosh

    That Ronaldo grift working really blew my mind ngl

    It only worked because he was very young and people thought he's 100% serious about that lol

  • BRAVE

    Yeah mainstream music is ass rn but how is that all you listen to, how are you waiting for mainstream culture to dictate your interest in music

    Don’t ever say or imply you love music

    Sums up most of this thread

  • Gosh 😹
    Jun 3, 2025
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    mov

    It only worked because he was very young and people thought he's 100% serious about that lol

    It was funny to see knowing of speed from the beginning because he really just played 2K and raged

    Then one day he’s a huge Ronaldo Stan

  • Gosh

    That Ronaldo grift working really blew my mind ngl

    And the crazy part is, if someone tried to follow that same blueprint they would just look like a lame Speed imitator

  • Jun 3, 2025
    Gosh

    It was funny to see knowing of speed from the beginning because he really just played 2K and raged

    Then one day he’s a huge Ronaldo Stan

    Pretty sure he was surprised too that it works

    And now he had Gianni Infantino in his stream

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    mangotflu

    Almost every trend is from tiktok, every largely talked about moment happens there

    Also same with streaming. Kai Cenat + Speed are 10x bigger than any rapper that's blown up in the past 5 years.

    Pop is trying hard as f*** to push Tate McRae, no one cares, she's absolutely nothing compared to these tiktokers/streamers etc

    Your pop takes are so s***.

    And why are you comparing an artist to streamers

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    Maybe the sad truth is most people are like mangotflu and depend on the crop of mainstream artists at the top to deliver music, and music as a whole just doesn’t exist to them outside of hits and superstars

    Mainstream artists gotta step it up tho

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    Midzy

    Your pop takes are so s***.

    And why are you comparing an artist to streamers

    Because streamers and influencers have encroached on the spaces that artists would’ve had 10 years ago.

    Tate McRae a corporate pop act

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    Because streamers and influencers have encroached on the spaces that artists would’ve had 10 years ago.

    Tate McRae a corporate pop act

    In 2025, Tate scored her first #1 song and #1 album and is currently on a worldwide arena tour. Regardless of what you think of her, people are tuned in and do care.

    Streamers have really only effected B-list rappers. Instead of kids listening to Lil Baby and YB they'd rather watch Kai Cenat get sturdy on stream

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    Midzy

    In 2025, Tate scored her first #1 song and #1 album and is currently on a worldwide arena tour. Regardless of what you think of her, people are tuned in and do care.

    Streamers have really only effected B-list rappers. Instead of kids listening to Lil Baby and YB they'd rather watch Kai Cenat get sturdy on stream

    Speed and Kai are bigger celebrities world wide than Tate McRae

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    Free YoungBoy

    Speed and Kai are bigger celebrities world wide than Tate McRae

    Well no s***.

    They could be 5x bigger than they currently are by the end of the year and it wouldn't have any affect on Tate McRae. They have no overlap and no spaces are been taken lol.

  • Jun 3, 2025
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    Gosh

    If we have no hits why doesn’t Drake the supreme hit maker just make some?

    Nokia out now

  • Gosh 😹
    Jun 3, 2025
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    Mafia Boss

    Nokia out now

    He’s complaining about no hits while Nokia is out, that’s the issue…

    Must not be hittin

  • Jun 3, 2025
    Gosh

    He’s complaining about no hits while Nokia is out, that’s the issue…

    Must not be hittin

    insert nokia lyrics

  • Jun 3, 2025
    mangotflu

    Almost every trend is from tiktok, every largely talked about moment happens there

    Also same with streaming. Kai Cenat + Speed are 10x bigger than any rapper that's blown up in the past 5 years.

    Pop is trying hard as f*** to push Tate McRae, no one cares, she's absolutely nothing compared to these tiktokers/streamers etc

    Maybe, but Kai and Speed don’t hold a candle to the actual rap superstars like Drake and Kendrick

    I just saw a clip of DDG claiming he’s bigger than rappers because he had a stadium’s worth of people tuned into his stream. This logic is ridiculous because watching a stream is literally free, and none of these streamers could fill up a 50K venue with paid tickets.

    Also DDG is an actual rapper as well and his music goes quadruple plastic

  • Jun 3, 2025
    Free YoungBoy

    I’ve had this discussion with Fader before. He doesn’t understand how big these streamers and influencers are.

    I do understand they are massively popular, but you still couldn’t be more off the mark in comparing them to PRINCE and MICHAEL JACKSON

    The most popular musicians, actors, and athletes will ALWAYS be more popular than the most popping streamers. Simple as that.

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