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  • May 20, 2025
    Expert

    Also SZA and Kendrick have both benefited from having longevity of their music.

    Swimming Pools was a much bigger song when it came out and probably Kendrick's breakthrough song but looking back, Money Trees is a bigger song by far over time.

    Looking back we can't call Money Trees a "breakout" hit.

    Bingo.

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    TheFader

    It was a moderate hit. It peaked high but didn’t last long and had zero longevity whatsoever

    They both charted the same amount of time before All The Stars re-entered in 2025

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    iHype

    They both charted the same amount of time before All The Stars re-entered in 2025

    And yet All the Stars had a gajillion more streams and total sales units

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    TheFader

    And yet All the Stars had a gajillion more streams and total sales units

    You just said “bingo” to a post that said talking about overtime / overall is a diff convo.

    They were both same tier of hits during original release. Same peeks and weeks charted. One had some more sales and one had some more radio exposure.

  • May 20, 2025

    iHype vs TheFader is the 2025 Drake vs Kendrick

  • May 20, 2025

    Argggghhh!
    My favorite rapper is better than yours!!!!

    Arghhhhh!

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    iHype

    You just said “bingo” to a post that said talking about overtime / overall is a diff convo.

    They were both same tier of hits during original release. Same peeks and weeks charted. One had some more sales and one had some more radio exposure.

    He’s saying you can’t call a song that grew overtime as the one that was the “breakthrough”, like you tried to do with Love Galore.

    All the Stars didn’t grow overtime, it was big when it released and it’s still big now.

    Nobody listens to What Lovers Do anymore, and it was only a moderate hit for Maroon 5 standards back when it released

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    TheFader

    He’s saying you can’t call a song that grew overtime as the one that was the “breakthrough”, like you tried to do with Love Galore.

    All the Stars didn’t grow overtime, it was big when it released and it’s still big now.

    Nobody listens to What Lovers Do anymore, and it was only a moderate hit for Maroon 5 standards back when it released

    So how was Swimming Pools a breakthrough hit but Love Galore isn’t?

    And it doesn’t matter what “nobody listens to anymore”. A breakthrough hit refers to popularity at time of release. Nobody could ever listen to Best I Ever Had again and that would still always be Drake’s breakthrough hit

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    Daily Streams:

    What Lovers Do - 403,525
    Dancing In The Flames - 256,660

  • May 20, 2025
    Midzy

    Daily Streams:

    What Lovers Do - 403,525
    Dancing In The Flames - 256,660

    Once again, bringing up an artist that has nothing to do with this conversation

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    iHype

    So how was Swimming Pools a breakthrough hit but Love Galore isn’t?

    And it doesn’t matter what “nobody listens to anymore”. A breakthrough hit refers to popularity at time of release. Nobody could ever listen to Best I Ever Had again and that would still always be Drake’s breakthrough hit

    First of all, you’re comparing two songs that released at two completely different times in the music industry, of two completely different genres.

    Hip-hop famously was not well represented on the Hot 100 prior to streaming, and even still Swimming Pools both peaked higher than Love Galore AND charted for longer.

    But a straight rap song peaking at #17 in 2012 was absolutely huge

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    TheFader

    First of all, you’re comparing two songs that released at two completely different times in the music industry, of two completely different genres.

    Hip-hop famously was not well represented on the Hot 100 prior to streaming, and even still Swimming Pools both peaked higher than Love Galore AND charted for longer.

    But a straight rap song peaking at #17 in 2012 was absolutely huge

    R&B wasn’t thriving in 2017 either, and if anything did worse than Hip-Hop consistently throughout the 2010s.

    So if you allowing Swimming Pools to be a breakthrough hit for defeating odds then Love Galore def gonna need that same energy

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    Midzy

    Daily Streams:

    What Lovers Do - 403,525
    Dancing In The Flames - 256,660

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    Daily Streams:
    What Lovers Do - 403,525
    SOMEBODY LOVES ME - 386,772
    GIMME A HUG - 218,874
    SOMETHING ABOUT YOU - 206,025
    CN TOWER - 189,960
    SPIDER-MAN SUPERMAN - 129,542
    GREEDY - 119,604
    MOTH BALLS - 105,251
    RAINING IN HOUSTON - 98,936
    SMALL TOWN FAME - 92,434
    WHEN HE’S GONE - 85,799
    CRYING IN CHANEL - 74,488
    BRIAN STEEL - 70,481
    MEET YOUR PADRE - 70,227
    OMW - 68,637
    LASERS - 62,267
    CELIBACY - 58,381
    GLORIOUS - 39,744

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    This is the most dire the Billboard 200 has been in a long time

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  • Gosh 😹
    May 20, 2025
    TheFader

    Daily Streams:
    What Lovers Do - 403,525
    SOMEBODY LOVES ME - 386,772
    GIMME A HUG - 218,874
    SOMETHING ABOUT YOU - 206,025
    CN TOWER - 189,960
    SPIDER-MAN SUPERMAN - 129,542
    GREEDY - 119,604
    MOTH BALLS - 105,251
    RAINING IN HOUSTON - 98,936
    SMALL TOWN FAME - 92,434
    WHEN HE’S GONE - 85,799
    CRYING IN CHANEL - 74,488
    BRIAN STEEL - 70,481
    MEET YOUR PADRE - 70,227
    OMW - 68,637
    LASERS - 62,267
    CELIBACY - 58,381
    GLORIOUS - 39,744

    Wow

    Horrendous

  • TheFader

    This is the most dire the Billboard 200 has been in a long time

    https://twitter.com/talkofthecharts/status/1924939480856748094

    people are afraid to drop an album

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    TheFader

    Daily Streams:
    What Lovers Do - 403,525
    SOMEBODY LOVES ME - 386,772
    GIMME A HUG - 218,874
    SOMETHING ABOUT YOU - 206,025
    CN TOWER - 189,960
    SPIDER-MAN SUPERMAN - 129,542
    GREEDY - 119,604
    MOTH BALLS - 105,251
    RAINING IN HOUSTON - 98,936
    SMALL TOWN FAME - 92,434
    WHEN HE’S GONE - 85,799
    CRYING IN CHANEL - 74,488
    BRIAN STEEL - 70,481
    MEET YOUR PADRE - 70,227
    OMW - 68,637
    LASERS - 62,267
    CELIBACY - 58,381
    GLORIOUS - 39,744

    "The album is performing well"

  • Gosh 😹
    May 20, 2025
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    Yeah Drake is gonna need the rollout of his life to get this next album to make any noise

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    Hurry Up Tomorrow falling to #16 during a movie release week that cannot be real omg

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    iHype
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    Hurry Up Tomorrow falling to #16 during a movie release week that cannot be real omg

    no way you are this excited

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    John Mauve

    no way you are this excited

    I’m heartbroken. This is a flop for the books 💔

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